[musictlk] The Circle of Fifths

Wed Jul 9 01:23:38 UTC 2014

Marissa, the best way to find out is to memorize the key signatures; 
in other words, how many flats or sharps in each key, and their note 
names. Then you won't have to find out; you'll know.

I didn't write out the minor keys, but they are a third below their 
relative key; but then it depends on what kind of minor key.
At 07:15 PM 7/8/2014, you wrote:

>OH!! Now I remember that! My eighth grade band teacher taught us 
>that, but I forgot all about it.
>How would I find out how many sharps or flats there are quickly? Say 
>if I were playing a song in the key of d, and I didn't have time to 
>go through and find out how many sharps there were?
>
>Also, if I went from the key of d and wanted to transpose to the key 
>of c, easily, what would be the best way to do that?
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com
>To: Marissa Tejeda <marissat789 at gmail.com>, Music Talk Mailing List 
><musictlk at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 16:42:33 -0700
>Subject: Re: [musictlk] The Circle of Fifths
>
>Hello,
>Honestly I'm not sure what those are, they may be an etude from a book.
>Circle of 5ths is:
>fcgdaeb
>or for flats
>beadgcf
>What you do for the first numonic is count on your fingers how many
>sharps the key has, then what ever note in the order you land on, go up
>a step in the scale.  For example:
>1 sharp I would count 1 letter in the first numonic which is f.
> From f I
>go up a step to G.  I know then that the sharps in f major are f# and the
>key is g.
>For 4 sharps I count 4 letters in: fcgd and go up a step to e.
>This
>means that the key is e and the sharps are f#c#g#d#.
>For flats it is a little more simple:
>You count the number of flats on your fingers and then subtract one
>number and count the letters and that is your key.  The number is the
>flats.  For example, 2 flats you go: be, count back one letter and you
>have bb (for the second one all those notes are flat keys).  Then you
>know bb and eb are the 2 flats in bb major.
>3 flats you count 3 over, bb, eb, ab.  You count one back and get eb,
>then you know the key is eb major.  You then know that the flats are bb,
>eb and ab in eb major.
>For minor scales, just go 3 notes down the scale and you will get it.
>For example, the minor scale with the same sharps as c major is a.  The
>same sharp scale that has the same sharps as e is c#.
>Just remember that for sharps c major has 0 sharps.  For flats f major
>has 1 flat.
>thanks,
>
>
>
>
>Brandon Keith Biggs
>
>On 7/8/2014 12:15 PM, Marissa Tejeda via musictlk wrote:
>Because they work.  And i don't teach clarinet.  Like I said, I taught
>myself.  I wouldn't be a good teacher.  And I can't teach over phone.
>Honestly, I'm bad at the clarinet either way.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Koby Cox <kobycox at icloud.com
>To: Marissa Tejeda <marissat789 at gmail.com
>Date sent: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:12:12 -0500
>Subject: Re: [musictlk] The Circle of Fifths
>
>Clarinet.  Why couldn't you use your parents phone to do lessons with
>me once or twice a week?
>Right back soon,
>Koby
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Jul 8, 2014, at 2:05 PM, Marissa Tejeda <marissat789 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Piano or clarinet?
>I have no Skype and no way of getting it.  I have no phone.  I just
>have the Apex, that's it.
>So most likely not.
>
>Also, if I write it as it is, that's fine.  But I still need to label
>the scales, and I still need to know how to read it.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Koby Cox <kobycox at icloud.com
>To: Marissa Tejeda <marissat789 at gmail.com
>Date sent: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:54:33 -0500
>Subject: Re: [musictlk] The Circle of Fifths
>
>i'm wanted to learn how to play as well.  Would It be possible for you
>to teach me as well?
>Right back soon,
>Koby
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Jul 8, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Marissa Tejeda <marissat789 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I played clarinet, and still do.  For two years now.
>Practically
>taught myself with the help of some friends.
>
>I also teach myself piano with youtube help, or sometimes playing by
>ear, as I am doing so with Pachebel's Canon in C.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Koby Cox <kobycox at icloud.com
>To: Marissa Tejeda <marissat789 at gmail.com
>Date sent: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:38:33 -0500
>Subject: Re: [musictlk] The Circle of Fifths
>
>I guess I could.  You will need to write just like It Is written In
>Braille.  Also, what instrument did you play when you were In band?
>Just wondering.
>Right back soon,
>Koby
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Jul 8, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Marissa Tejeda <marissat789 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Why not assist me on list?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Koby Cox <kobycox at icloud.com
>To: Marissa Tejeda <marissat789 at gmail.com>,Music Talk Mailing List
><musictlk at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 13:21:07 -0500
>Subject: Re: [musictlk] The Circle of Fifths
>
>Marissa,Can you please email me off list? My email address Is as follows:
>kobycox at gmail dot com.  I'd like to get to know you better.
>I may
>be able to assist you with your question.
>Right back soon,
>Koby
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Marissa Tejeda via musictlk
><musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>I have a copy of the circle of fifths that we used in band class, in
>braille.  The problem is, I don't know how to read it correctly.
>It
>is in letter notation instead of sheet music.  My V-I teacher made it
>for me in eighth grade, since she can read piano music, which looks
>the same as clarinet.
>
>I also want to copy it down on the Apex, so I can send it to a friend,
>but don't want to copy it wrong.  The circle of fifths looks something
>like this.  The numbers on the side are the measures.
>
>1: d e f-sharp g
>2: a b c-sharp d
>3: c-sharp b a g
>f-sharp e d
>
>5: g a b c
>6: d e f-sharp g
>7: f-sharp e d c
>8: b a g
>
>
>I also cannot tell which scale is which.  I want to label them, like
>this:
>
>c scale
>c d e f g a b c
>
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