[MusicTlk] MusicTlk Digest, Vol 170, Issue 3
Kociaba Fitness
kociabafitness at gmail.com
Sat Oct 6 17:01:02 UTC 2018
Hay Peter,
Great to hear from you. Hope you are doing well.
Its been a long time.Trust me I know when I land in the wrong place and you are right its only a fret off one way or the other. The difference in the neck of my acoustic and the electric I used to play is not helping matters as the space between frets seems greater than I remember. I was just hoping someone out there might have a short cut or little trick to help. As you say with time I am sure I will get better at it.
Get in touch off list if you want.
Bill
Bill Kociaba
www.kociaba-fitness.com
"Building Better Bodies Since 1981"
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Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] MusicTlk Digest, Vol 170, Issue 3
Hi Bill,
As an accomplished saxophone player you have an advantage because you have a trained ear.
It’s simply takes practice to land on the right fret.
Usually you will find that you are only off a fret or so.
> Once you realize this with a quick adjustment you can move up or down to where you need to be.
> This was a mystery two me until I lost my site.
> The pros are very used to playing in front of people and they make a conscious effort not to look at their hands.
I used to have a problem with this myself.
With some practice and a little patience you will find that you will overcome this very easily.
With the greatest respect,
Peter
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> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:01:00 -0400
> From: "Kociaba Fitness" <kociabafitness at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [MusicTlk] a beginner again
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> Hi all,
>
> I have a question for any of the guitar players out there. I used to play
> years ago. Never was very good but enjoyed it. I always had trouble moving
> my hand fingers were pretty fast and accurate but moving up and down the
> neck was always a challenge. Back then I had a little vision but now I
> don't. Any suggestions on getting A smoother in moving my hand and B on
> landing on the right fret when I do move it? I was thinking of putting a
> couple of small pieces of tape on the back of the neck at something like
> the4,6 and 9 fret.
>
> Any ideas? I know this is a real specific topic and don't want to wast
> everyones time so anyone who wants to answer me can do so directly at
> kociabafitness at gmail.com if you like
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Bill Kociaba
>
> <http://www.kociaba-fitness.com> www.kociaba-fitness.com
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> "Building Better Bodies Since 1981"
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2018 10:58:59 -0700
> From: Ella Yu <ellaxyu at gmail.com>
> To: Music Talk Mailing List for Blind Musicians <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] a beginner again
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> I'm not a guitarist, but I do play violin and viola so I do
> understand some of the issues here to an extent. Knowing where
> the notes are is something that comes with practice over a period
> of time as you build muscle memory. I would try doing lots of
> slow practice and/or play scales to get an idea of where the
> notes are. If you are having trouble moving your hands and
> fingers fluently and accurately, it could be because you're
> squeezing the neck extremely hard. I don't think it's a good
> idea to squeeze the neck, namely with the thumb muscle. This
> squeezing actually inhibits the precise and controlled movement
> of the fingers. Yes, the finger joints have to be firm in order
> to press the strings down, but the rest of the hand should not be
> working too hind.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kociaba Fitness via MusicTlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org
> To: <MusicTlk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:01:00 -0400
> Subject: [MusicTlk] a beginner again
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a question for any of the guitar players out there. I
> used to play
> years ago. Never was very good but enjoyed it. I always had
> trouble moving
> my hand fingers were pretty fast and accurate but moving up and
> down the
> neck was always a challenge. Back then I had a little vision but
> now I
> don't. Any suggestions on getting A smoother in moving my hand
> and B on
> landing on the right fret when I do move it? I was thinking of
> putting a
> couple of small pieces of tape on the back of the neck at
> something like
> the4,6 and 9 fret.
>
> Any ideas? I know this is a real specific topic and don't want to
> wast
> everyones time so anyone who wants to answer me can do so
> directly at
> kociabafitness at gmail.com if you like
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Bill Kociaba
>
> <http://www.kociaba-fitness.com> www.kociaba-fitness.com
>
> "Building Better Bodies Since 1981"
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 14:47:06 -0400
> From: Cameron Strife <cameron at cameronstrife.com>
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> Hi. I've been teaching blind and sighted guitar students for over 15
> years. I could certainly provide you with some exercises and tips to
> help out with this. Feel free to e mail me off list at:
> Cameron at cameronstrife.com
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>> On 10/5/18, Ella Yu via MusicTlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I'm not a guitarist, but I do play violin and viola so I do
>> understand some of the issues here to an extent. Knowing where
>> the notes are is something that comes with practice over a period
>> of time as you build muscle memory. I would try doing lots of
>> slow practice and/or play scales to get an idea of where the
>> notes are. If you are having trouble moving your hands and
>> fingers fluently and accurately, it could be because you're
>> squeezing the neck extremely hard. I don't think it's a good
>> idea to squeeze the neck, namely with the thumb muscle. This
>> squeezing actually inhibits the precise and controlled movement
>> of the fingers. Yes, the finger joints have to be firm in order
>> to press the strings down, but the rest of the hand should not be
>> working too hind.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kociaba Fitness via MusicTlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org
>> To: <MusicTlk at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:01:00 -0400
>> Subject: [MusicTlk] a beginner again
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have a question for any of the guitar players out there. I
>> used to play
>> years ago. Never was very good but enjoyed it. I always had
>> trouble moving
>> my hand fingers were pretty fast and accurate but moving up and
>> down the
>> neck was always a challenge. Back then I had a little vision but
>> now I
>> don't. Any suggestions on getting A smoother in moving my hand
>> and B on
>> landing on the right fret when I do move it? I was thinking of
>> putting a
>> couple of small pieces of tape on the back of the neck at
>> something like
>> the4,6 and 9 fret.
>>
>> Any ideas? I know this is a real specific topic and don't want to
>> wast
>> everyones time so anyone who wants to answer me can do so
>> directly at
>> kociabafitness at gmail.com if you like
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Kociaba
>>
>> <http://www.kociaba-fitness.com> www.kociaba-fitness.com
>>
>> "Building Better Bodies Since 1981"
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 16:19:10 -0400
> From: "Kociaba Fitness" <kociabafitness at gmail.com>
> To: "'Music Talk Mailing List for Blind Musicians'"
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> Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] a beginner again
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> Hi and thanks for responding. My fingers are moving fine in fact better
> than I expected considering its been sevral years its moving the hand up and
> down the neck where I run into trouble. I understand the not squeezing
> issue and keep correcting it as I realize I am doing it. again something I
> need to relearn.
> Again thanks
>
>
> Bill Kociaba
> www.kociaba-fitness.com
> "Building Better Bodies Since 1981"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MusicTlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ella Yu via
> MusicTlk
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 1:59 PM
> To: Music Talk Mailing List for Blind Musicians
> Cc: Ella Yu
> Subject: Re: [MusicTlk] a beginner again
>
> I'm not a guitarist, but I do play violin and viola so I do
> understand some of the issues here to an extent. Knowing where
> the notes are is something that comes with practice over a period
> of time as you build muscle memory. I would try doing lots of
> slow practice and/or play scales to get an idea of where the
> notes are. If you are having trouble moving your hands and
> fingers fluently and accurately, it could be because you're
> squeezing the neck extremely hard. I don't think it's a good
> idea to squeeze the neck, namely with the thumb muscle. This
> squeezing actually inhibits the precise and controlled movement
> of the fingers. Yes, the finger joints have to be firm in order
> to press the strings down, but the rest of the hand should not be
> working too hind.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kociaba Fitness via MusicTlk <musictlk at nfbnet.org
> To: <MusicTlk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:01:00 -0400
> Subject: [MusicTlk] a beginner again
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a question for any of the guitar players out there. I
> used to play
> years ago. Never was very good but enjoyed it. I always had
> trouble moving
> my hand fingers were pretty fast and accurate but moving up and
> down the
> neck was always a challenge. Back then I had a little vision but
> now I
> don't. Any suggestions on getting A smoother in moving my hand
> and B on
> landing on the right fret when I do move it? I was thinking of
> putting a
> couple of small pieces of tape on the back of the neck at
> something like
> the4,6 and 9 fret.
>
> Any ideas? I know this is a real specific topic and don't want to
> wast
> everyones time so anyone who wants to answer me can do so
> directly at
> kociabafitness at gmail.com if you like
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Bill Kociaba
>
> <http://www.kociaba-fitness.com> www.kociaba-fitness.com
>
> "Building Better Bodies Since 1981"
>
>
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