[nabentre] Business Opportunity

The Elf inthaneelf at roadrunner.com
Tue Jun 22 19:27:23 UTC 2010


Jim,

since a couple persons mentioned there Trojan scanners throwing an alert 
when visiting the site(s) you may want to run a scan.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Homme, James" <james.homme at highmark.com>
To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nabentre] Business Opportunity


> Hi Bob,
> There are two separate issues. The first is random links to sites that 
> have nothing to do with your opportunity. I experienced those in both 
> sites. The second is popups. I'll have to watch that more closely, because 
> I started getting them when I was on web sites other than yours. I had not 
> experienced the pop-ups before I accessed the sites from the vendors you 
> talk about. The pop-ups started happening randomly out of nowhere that I 
> had not gotten before on sites that I know have no issues.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Homme,
> Usability Services,
> Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Bob Clark
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:05 AM
> To: NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nabentre] Business Opportunity
>
> Hi Jim:
>
> I have had no previous complaints and/or concerns about pop-ups.
> Please tell me which website that you accessed.
> www.makeithappen4u2.com is hosted by godaddy.com.  They supposedly
> have safeguards to prevent that situation.  I will talk to WMI to see
> if that has been an issue with their affiliated websites.
>
> Thanks and have a great day.
>
> On 6/21/10, Homme, James <james.homme at highmark.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Unfortunately, I'm also experiencing this on my home computer. Bob, you
>> should look into this. I'm getting pop-ups out of nowhere about business
>> opportunities that have nothing to do with yours, and when I follow some
>> links from that site, I am taken to sites that have nothing at all to do
>> with what you are promoting.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Jim Homme,
>> Usability Services,
>> Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme
>> Internal recipients,  Read my accessibility blog. Discuss accessibility
>> here. Accessibility Wiki: Breaking news and accessibility advice
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
>> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 2:53 PM
>> To: NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nabentre] Business Opportunity
>>
>> I do have to say when I got your site I get my spyware and other issues
>> going, and now I am getting repeat e-mails.
>>
>> Cheryl Echevarria
>> Independent Travel Consultant
>> C10-10646
>>
>> http://Echevarriatravel.com
>> 1-866-580-5574
>>
>> http://blog.echevarriatravel.com
>> Reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel 
>> CST-1018299-10
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bob Clark" <bobclark4 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 1:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabentre] Business Opportunity
>>
>>
>>> Cheryl:
>>>
>>> I have emailed you several times that the affiliated website is:
>>> www.wminow.com/bobclark4.  There is no need to enter any personal
>>> information on that site to explore the information.
>>>
>>> Have a great weekend.
>>>
>>> On 6/19/10, cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Loren:
>>> >
>>> > We know what Shaklee is, but we don't know what the other gentlemen is
>>> > offering, and from what he is saying, or he is not explaining himself
>>> > correctly which is possible and we are trying to tell him we can help 
>>> > as
>>> > long as we know what is being sold, I went to the website myself and I
>>> > am
>>> > not putting information in to found out about the company at hand.
>>> >
>>> > Cheryl Echevarria
>>> > Independent Travel Consultant
>>> > C10-10646
>>> >
>>> > http://Echevarriatravel.com
>>> > 1-866-580-5574
>>> >
>>> > http://blog.echevarriatravel.com
>>> > Reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>>> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
>>> > CST-1018299-10
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
>>> > To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 10:10 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: [nabentre] Business Opportunity
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Albert,
>>> >>
>>> >> I do agree with you about being hessitant to enter contact info.
>>> >> However,
>>> >> in some cases it might have to do with legal guidelines or company
>>> >> policy
>>> >> for personal websites with said company.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Loren Wakefield
>>> >>
>>> >> "The best way to predict your future is to create it."  Dr. Forrest 
>>> >> C.
>>> >> Shaklee
>>> >>
>>> >> www.shaklee.net/ultimatehealthwithtlc
>>> >>
>>> >> 319-433-0145 866-433-3969
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
>>> >> To: "'NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List'" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 7:58 AM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [nabentre] Business Opportunity
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > As is the case in most instances, people react without first
>>> >> > investigating
>>> >> > matters. unless and until one visits the site provided, and is
>>> >> > willing
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > enter their personal info to get the privilege to delve deeper into
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > site
>>> >> > then we should hold off on vilifying this opportunity. However, if 
>>> >> > we
>>> >> > were
>>> >> > afforded the opportunity to investigate without first having to 
>>> >> > enter
>>> >> > information or email addresses perhaps we could learn more and be
>>> >> > more
>>> >> > informed about this as an option in our life. I myself am leery 
>>> >> > about
>>> >> > having
>>> >> > to enter my contact info in any instance before I can learn 
>>> >> > anything
>>> >> > about
>>> >> > a
>>> >> > site or organization.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>>> >> > CEO/Founder
>>> >> > My Blind Spot, Inc.
>>> >> > 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>>> >> > New York, New York  10004
>>> >> > www.myblindspot.org
>>> >> > PH: 917-553-0347
>>> >> > Fax: 212-858-5759
>>> >> > "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one
>>> >> > who
>>> >> > is
>>> >> > doing it."
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>> >> > From: nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> >> > [mailto:nabentre-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> >> > On
>>> >> > Behalf Of Bob Clark
>>> >> > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 6:04 PM
>>> >> > To: NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List
>>> >> > Subject: Re: [nabentre] Business Opportunity
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hello Cheryl:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Contrary to what Mr. Schultz says, Wealth masters International is
>>> >> > not a
>>> >> > MLM
>>> >> > company.  It is a direct sales company with a residual income
>>> >> > component.
>>> >> > The Website is www.wimnow.com/bobclark4.  We market wealth 
>>> >> > creation,
>>> >> > wealth
>>> >> > training/education, asset protection,  investment guidance, etc
>>> >> > products.
>>> >> > The original email was not intended to be a solicitation.  The
>>> >> > purpose
>>> >> > of
>>> >> > the email was to provide NFB listserve users an opportunity to earn
>>> >> > supplementary income or replace their income and more.  If you 
>>> >> > review
>>> >> > option
>>> >> > 1 of my email, you will see that there is absolutely no monetary
>>> >> > ivestment.
>>> >> > You will not find that option on my affiliated Website. What I am
>>> >> > trying
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > do is provide a win/win situation for all concerned.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Mr. Schultz has his opinion and that is ok.  However, it is obvious
>>> >> > that
>>> >> > he
>>> >> > has not reviewed the Website and certainly has not contacted me
>>> >> > offline.
>>> >> > In
>>> >> > his case, his perception is his reality.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Have a great evening.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>> >> > From: cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>> >> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:14 PM
>>> >> > To: NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> > Subject: Re: [nabentre] Business Opportunity
>>> >> >
>>> >> > so what exactly does you business do you are not telling us 
>>> >> > anything.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Cheryl Echevarria
>>> >> > Independent Travel Consultant
>>> >> > C10-10646
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://Echevarriatravel.com
>>> >> > 1-866-580-5574
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://blog.echevarriatravel.com
>>> >> > Reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>>> >> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
>>> >> > CST-1018299-10
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: "Bob Clark" <bobclark4 at gmail.com>
>>> >> > To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:31 PM
>>> >> > Subject: Re: [nabentre] Business Opportunity
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Hello Bryan:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> With all due respect, I have the following questions/comments
>>> >> >>    *. Have you reviewed the Website www.wminow.com/bobclark4
>>> >> >>    *. Do you know the difference between direct sales, network
>>> >> >> marketing,
>>> >> >> MLM marketing, and a pyramid scheme company?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> This business opportunity is a direct sales opportunity with a
>>> >> >> residual
>>> >> >> income feature.  If you review option 1 of my opportunity, there 
>>> >> >> is
>>> >> >> absolutely no investment required.  Although this opportunity is 
>>> >> >> not
>>> >> >> a
>>> >> >> MLM
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> opportunity, the MLM structure is not undesirable.  Examples of 
>>> >> >> MLM
>>> >> >> organizations include:
>>> >> >>    *. Amway
>>> >> >>    *. Avon
>>> >> >>    *. Shaklee
>>> >> >>    *. The trump network sponsored by Donald Trump
>>> >> >>    *. The pampered chef sponsored by Warren Buffet
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Would you cast dispersions at all these billion dollar companies? 
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >> would
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> be happy to continue this discussion offline if you desire.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Have a great day.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> From: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:59 PM
>>> >> >> To: qubit <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>; NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing
>>> >> >> List
>>> >> >> <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabentre] Business Opportunity
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> exactly, similar structure of a pyramid but called something else.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Bryan Schulz
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
>>> >> >> To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:31 PM
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabentre] Business Opportunity
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > but it is mlm.  I am suspicious of mlm as only a few people ever
>>> >> >> > get
>>> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> > profits and the rest do a lot of work and break even or worse.
>>> >> >> > Or maybe I'm thinking of different examples -- reminiscing 
>>> >> >> > growing
>>> >> >> > up
>>> >> >> > with
>>> >> >> > my mom working all kinds of mlm that didn't work out and finally
>>> >> >> > getting
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> > a
>>> >> >> > regular job.  Maybe I fear them because I haven't done the math,
>>> >> >> > but
>>> >> >> > remember people are sinking money into things and should make a
>>> >> >> > profit.
>>> >> >> > --le
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> > From: "Bob Clark" <bobclark4 at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> > To: "NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List" 
>>> >> >> > <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:19 PM
>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [nabentre] Business Opportunity
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Hello Bryan:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I appreciate your input/opinion.  However, Wealth Master
>>> >> >> > International
>>> >> >> > www.wminow.com/bobclark4 is not a pyramid scheme.  Pyramid 
>>> >> >> > schemes
>>> >> >> > are
>>> >> >> > illegal.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Have a great day.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> > From: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
>>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:30 AM
>>> >> >> > To: NFBnet NAB Entrepreneurs Mailing List <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [nabentre] Business Opportunity
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > walk like an egyptian...
>>> >> >> > no, run from pyramid schemes!
>>> >> >> > Bryan
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> > From: "Bob Clark" <bobclark4 at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> > To: <nabentre at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:26 AM
>>> >> >> > Subject: [nabentre] Business Opportunity
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> Greetings:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> My name is Bob Clark.  I am a totally blind entrepreneur that 
>>> >> >> >> has
>>> >> >> >> owned
>>> >> >> >> several businesses including an information technology 
>>> >> >> >> consulting
>>> >> >> >> firm,
>>> >> >> >> an
>>> >> >> >> automobile service facility, a Montessori school, and a 
>>> >> >> >> clerical
>>> >> >> >> staffing
>>> >> >> >> company.  Although I understand that many visually impaired
>>> >> >> >> individuals
>>> >> >> >> are
>>> >> >> >> gainfully employed, I also know that the unemployment rate 
>>> >> >> >> within
>>> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> blindness community is ridiculously high.  Therefore, I would
>>> >> >> >> like
>>> >> >> >> to
>>> >> >> >> invite
>>> >> >> >> you to consider a win/win situation for both of us.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> After reviewing numerous network and internet marketing
>>> >> >> >> opportunities,
>>> >> >> >> I
>>> >> >> >> have identified an opportunity that I believe can offer you a
>>> >> >> >> significant
>>> >> >> >> income opportunity as well as the freedom to enjoy the 
>>> >> >> >> lifestyle
>>> >> >> >> that
>>> >> >> >> you
>>> >> >> >> definitely desire and deserve.  The most pressing issue for 
>>> >> >> >> many
>>> >> >> >> people
>>> >> >> >> in
>>> >> >> >> this economy today is the initial investment that is required 
>>> >> >> >> to
>>> >> >> >> start
>>> >> >> >> a
>>> >> >> >> home-based business or for that matter, a brick and mortar
>>> >> >> >> business.
>>> >> >> >> I
>>> >> >> >> have
>>> >> >> >> established three alternatives that will allow you to join my
>>> >> >> >> team
>>> >> >> >> with
>>> >> >> >> absolutely no investment or a reasonable investment if you are
>>> >> >> >> totally
>>> >> >> >> committed to the program:
>>> >> >> >>   Option 1. Join my team as a direct sales member.  You will be
>>> >> >> >> working
>>> >> >> >> directly with me.  I will pay you a 20% commission on all
>>> >> >> >> commissions
>>> >> >> >> paid
>>> >> >> >> to me based upon your individual sales.  This option requires
>>> >> >> >> absolutely
>>> >> >> >> no
>>> >> >> >> monetary investment on your part.  Once you begin to experience 
>>> >> >> >> a
>>> >> >> >> level
>>> >> >> >> of
>>> >> >> >> success, I'm sure that you will want to move to option 2 or 3.
>>> >> >> >>   Option 2. Join my team as a referring salesperson.  This will
>>> >> >> >> require
>>> >> >> >> an
>>> >> >> >> investment of $99.  If you elect this option, you will receive 
>>> >> >> >> no
>>> >> >> >> commission
>>> >> >> >> for the first sale and 10% commission for sales 2 through 5. 
>>> >> >> >> The
>>> >> >> >> primary
>>> >> >> >> advantage of this option is that you will receive the specific
>>> >> >> >> product
>>> >> >> >> level
>>> >> >> >> package for which you made 5 sales at no additional cost to 
>>> >> >> >> you.
>>> >> >> >> At
>>> >> >> >> that
>>> >> >> >> point forward, you will receive 100% of the commission for the
>>> >> >> >> product
>>> >> >> >> levels for which you have qualified.  I.e. After selling 5 m1
>>> >> >> >> products,
>>> >> >> >> you
>>> >> >> >> will receive at no additional cost to you a m1 product package.
>>> >> >> >>   Option 3. Join my team as a consultant.  The investment
>>> >> >> >> required
>>> >> >> >> for
>>> >> >> >> this
>>> >> >> >> option is based upon the product level that you elect to
>>> >> >> >> purchase.
>>> >> >> >> This
>>> >> >> >> option pays you 100% of the commission for the product level 
>>> >> >> >> for
>>> >> >> >> which
>>> >> >> >> you
>>> >> >> >> have qualified.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> For further information, please call me at 561-699-8072 or 
>>> >> >> >> email
>>> >> >> >> me
>>> >> >> >> offline
>>> >> >> >> at buildyourownwealth at gmail.com.  You can also visit my Website
>>> >> >> >> at
>>> >> >> >> www.makeithappen4u2.com.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> No matter which option you select, you will receive 
>>> >> >> >> comprehensive
>>> >> >> >> coaching/training by me and/or one of my team members.  So, 
>>> >> >> >> come
>>> >> >> >> Join
>>> >> >> >> me
>>> >> >> >> and
>>> >> >> >> make it happen for you too.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>          To your success,
>>> >> >> >>          Bob Clark
>>> >> >> >>          Member Id: 18697
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