[nabs-l] Victory for Antonio

[Antonio Guimaraes]

I want to thank Joe Orozco for such spirited debate. It has been 
interesting, and no doubt enriching for me to go at it with a person who I 
have observed, and admired since the beginning. It's been a real exercise in 
building my arguments, and trying to refute the ones from the other point of 
view.

It is good to win, I can't deny it, yet, we do have a new president who 
still has to face all of the problems he's wanted to face by running the 
election. I sure hope Obama is allowed to take this country, and it's 
governance completely, and creatively.

Thanks to the people who participated in the threads, and especially for the 
list moderators. We know how to be civil, and you've allowed us to do so, 
since there wasn't much said in the form of attacks, and immaturity.

I guess I did win, because I happened to pick the winner, but I'd like to 
think that this country has won too. I would hope our president elect will 
do a good job, but we'll soon find out. I do not expect politics to change 
much in Washington--there will continue to be divisiveness, controversy, 
differences, heated debates, and all of the same things one observes if she 
or he's looking at all.

McCain was gracious in his speech, and Obama humble in his. Let's see if 
this can be extended for some time. I think of Obama as an inspirer, and of 
McCain as a compromiser. I believe he would have disappointed the republican 
base had he won. If you heard the speeches last night, you would have 
noticed much rumbling, and booing, and opposition, and disapproval, and 
disrespect for the president elect during McCain's conceding speech. This 
kind of reaction will not go away, but the respect, and appreciation McCain 
showed, even when losing, is the spirit of diplomacy, and respect. this is 
to be commended.

thanks, and see you in Detroit.

Antonio Guimaraes

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco at gmail.com>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:44 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Victory for Antonio


> Alas, with Ohio down, the race is over.  Antonio is one pitcher of choice
> richer.  People should feel free to join us in Detroit when we take the
> debate to the bar.  No doubt we'll continue to disagree over how well, or
> how bad, the Obama administration is doing by that point, but let there be
> no mistake that tonight marks a new page in history.  So, for now, here's 
> to
> Obama for turning that page, and to Antonio, for believing.
>
> Joe Orozco
>
> "Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity."--James 
> M.
> Barrie
>
>
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