[nabs-l] accomodations in public school

hannah sparklylicious at suddenlink.net
Sat Nov 8 02:18:03 UTC 2008 

Great point; I'd have said the same thing...

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Hope Paulos <hope.paulos at maine.edu
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing 
list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:37:19 -0500
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school

>Hi Franandah, I would seriously sit down with the principal of
>the school and try to discuss your needs with him or her.
>Unfortunately, private schools aren't required to provide any
>accommodations, but  if you like going to that school (aside from
>the lack of assistance you're getting) then I'd talk to them.
>Make them give you what you need! This is rediculous.  Otherwise,
>as much as I hate to say it, you should change schools.

>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Franandah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com
>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>Date sent: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:01:12 -0500
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school

>>At least there are some people who understand what I am going
>>through...Everyone tells me "You have some sight so use it!" I
>>honestly wish I was totatly blind so I can get the help I
>deserve.  I
>>would do anything to get braille, I just got back my report card
>and I
>>got an E in maths...I'm so slow and can't comprehend what is
>going on
>>because it is so visual! I need help desperatly and I will do
>ANYTHING
>>to get it!

>>On 11/7/08, hannah <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>> I totally agree...

>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca
>>>>To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:02:51 -0500
>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school

>>>>I third it.  That's ridiculous and unacceptable.  They're
>>> violating your right
>>>>to an education and that's criminal.

>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>Of Beth
>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:23 AM
>>>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school

>>>>I second that one, Antonio and Franandiah.
>>>>Beth

>>>>On 11/6/08, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hello Franandiah,

>>>>> There is no officially recognized point at which braille is the
>>> preferred
>>>>> method.  In other words, there is no absolute test that says one
>>> should use
>>>>> braille if her sight is 20/500 or worst in the better eye, and
>>> the like.

>>>>> Your vision, 20/800, is very very, very limited.  A good friend
>>> of mine had
>>>>> 20/200, and she knew and used braille when necessary.  She is
>>> very low
>>>>> vision, and I can't imagine someone four times blinder than her
>>> not using
>>>>> braille.

>>>>> You know you need braille, but your school will not provide it.
>>> The simple
>>>>> fact you can not stand to read print, that you cry every day
>>> from
>>>>straining
>>>>> to read what you can't see, that you have no depth perception,
>>> and no
>>>>> peripheral vision would be more than enough to warrant using
>>> braille.

>>>>> It's pretty clear to me that your school is refusing to provide
>>> you a
>>>>> service you need to continue your education.  don't let it
>>> happen.

>>>>> I am providing you with the e-mail and phone number to the NFB
>>> President
>>>>in
>>>>> your state in a separate, private message.  Get in touch.

>>>>> I am a Christian myself, but do not think attending a Christian
>>> school is
>>>>> necessary to maintain your faith.  If you end up not receiving
>>> services,
>>>>you
>>>>> should either leave the school, or pressure them into providing
>>> you with
>>>>the
>>>>> right to read.

>>>>> The bottom line for them is that braille is expensive, and they
>>> will do
>>>>what
>>>>> it takes not to spend that kind of money.  Again: don't let that
>>> happen.

>>>>> Sincerely,

>>>>> Antonio Guimaraes


>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Franandiah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:54 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school


>>>>>>I live in Michigan.  The problem is, because I go to a Christian
>>>>>> school, public services cannot do much because of the separation
>>> of
>>>>>> church and state.  So, I'm really stuck.  My question is, what
>>> type of
>>>>>> vision loss is needed to state that braille should be used as
>>> the
>>>>>> dominate medium instead of large print?

>>>>>> On 11/5/08, Dezman Jackson <jackson.dezman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Franandiah,
>>>>>>> This is a crying shame.
>>>>>>> What state are you in? Perhaps there's someone on the list from
>>> the same
>>>>>>> area or perhaps we can network you with some resources to get
>>> you what
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> need.

>>>>>>> Dezman
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Franandiah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:11 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school


>>>>>>>> Hello everyone.  I'm new here and I just want to say, YOU ALL
>>> ARE
>>>>>>>> LUCKY! I go to a very small christian private schools, and I get
>>>>>>>> nothing! I get "enlarged" assignments and extended tests, but
>>> that is
>>>>>>>> about it.  Though I know braille, nobody will provide it for me.
>>> My
>>>>>>>> sight is 20/800.  I am colour blind, I don't have either
>>> preferal
>>>>>>>> vision or depth perseption and yet all I ever hear is "Oh, you
>>> have
>>>>>>>> some sight so use it!" So consider yourselves VERY lucky.  I
>>> would do
>>>>>>>> anything to get braille books.  I can't read this print much
>>> longer, I
>>>>>>>> go home crying because my eyes are burning so badly.  You all
>>> are
>>>>>>>> luckier than you know.

>>>>>>>> On 11/4/08, hannah <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> All of my materials are brailled or on audio, but I don't get
>>>>>>>>> extra time on tests...

>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:34:38 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school

>>>>>>>>>>I had braille extra time on tests my books and hand outs were
>>>>>>>>> also brailled.
>>>>>>>>>>Rania,
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school


>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,

>>>>>>>>>>> I'm asking this for a class as well as to compare my experience
>>>>>>>>> to yours.
>>>>>>>>>>> I had pretty decent services.  I got braille and audio books and
>>>>>>>>> my TVI
>>>>>>>>>>> was good at giving braille handouts and I got extra time on
>>>>>>>>> tests.
>>>>>>>>>>> As we have discussed before, I struggled fitting in socially
>>>>>>>>> though.

>>>>>>>>>>> In my psychology of individuals with disabilities class, I was
>>>>>>>>> asked to
>>>>>>>>>>> present about visual impairment and accomodations and other
>>>>>>>>> academic
>>>>>>>>>>> impact.  So my questions.
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  What accomodations did you use?
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Were they effective? If you used print you may have been
>>>>>>>>> more effective
>>>>>>>>>>> with braille.

>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  What should have been done that was not?

>>>>>>>>>>> Common accomodations I can think of are: large print or braille
>>>>>>>>> handouts,
>>>>>>>>>>> audio texts, and extended time on tests.

>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> Ashley
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