[nabs-l] accomodations in public school

Serena serenacucco at verizon.net
Sun Nov 9 20:39:46 UTC 2008 

One thing, though.  This isn't happening just cause she's in private school. 
Even if she were in public school, I'm sure somebody, including the 
Commission for the Blind, would be telling her to use the vision she still 
has!

Serena


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school


> Hi Franandah, I would seriously sit down with the principal of the school 
> and try to discuss your needs with him or her.  Unfortunately, private 
> schools aren't required to provide any accommodations, but  if you like 
> going to that school (aside from the lack of assistance you're getting) 
> then I'd talk to them.  Make them give you what you need! This is 
> rediculous.  Otherwise, as much as I hate to say it, you should change 
> schools.
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Franandah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com
>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>Date sent: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:01:12 -0500
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>
>>At least there are some people who understand what I am going
>>through...Everyone tells me "You have some sight so use it!" I
>>honestly wish I was totatly blind so I can get the help I
> deserve.  I
>>would do anything to get braille, I just got back my report card
> and I
>>got an E in maths...I'm so slow and can't comprehend what is
> going on
>>because it is so visual! I need help desperatly and I will do
> ANYTHING
>>to get it!
>
>>On 11/7/08, hannah <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>> I totally agree...
>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Sarah Jevnikar" <sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca
>>>>To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:02:51 -0500
>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>
>>>>I third it.  That's ridiculous and unacceptable.  They're
>>> violating your right
>>>>to an education and that's criminal.
>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>>Of Beth
>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:23 AM
>>>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>
>>>>I second that one, Antonio and Franandiah.
>>>>Beth
>
>>>>On 11/6/08, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hello Franandiah,
>
>>>>> There is no officially recognized point at which braille is the
>>> preferred
>>>>> method.  In other words, there is no absolute test that says one
>>> should use
>>>>> braille if her sight is 20/500 or worst in the better eye, and
>>> the like.
>
>>>>> Your vision, 20/800, is very very, very limited.  A good friend
>>> of mine had
>>>>> 20/200, and she knew and used braille when necessary.  She is
>>> very low
>>>>> vision, and I can't imagine someone four times blinder than her
>>> not using
>>>>> braille.
>
>>>>> You know you need braille, but your school will not provide it.
>>> The simple
>>>>> fact you can not stand to read print, that you cry every day
>>> from
>>>>straining
>>>>> to read what you can't see, that you have no depth perception,
>>> and no
>>>>> peripheral vision would be more than enough to warrant using
>>> braille.
>
>>>>> It's pretty clear to me that your school is refusing to provide
>>> you a
>>>>> service you need to continue your education.  don't let it
>>> happen.
>
>>>>> I am providing you with the e-mail and phone number to the NFB
>>> President
>>>>in
>>>>> your state in a separate, private message.  Get in touch.
>
>>>>> I am a Christian myself, but do not think attending a Christian
>>> school is
>>>>> necessary to maintain your faith.  If you end up not receiving
>>> services,
>>>>you
>>>>> should either leave the school, or pressure them into providing
>>> you with
>>>>the
>>>>> right to read.
>
>>>>> The bottom line for them is that braille is expensive, and they
>>> will do
>>>>what
>>>>> it takes not to spend that kind of money.  Again: don't let that
>>> happen.
>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>
>>>>> Antonio Guimaraes
>
>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Franandiah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:54 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>
>
>>>>>>I live in Michigan.  The problem is, because I go to a Christian
>>>>>> school, public services cannot do much because of the separation
>>> of
>>>>>> church and state.  So, I'm really stuck.  My question is, what
>>> type of
>>>>>> vision loss is needed to state that braille should be used as
>>> the
>>>>>> dominate medium instead of large print?
>
>>>>>> On 11/5/08, Dezman Jackson <jackson.dezman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Franandiah,
>>>>>>> This is a crying shame.
>>>>>>> What state are you in? Perhaps there's someone on the list from
>>> the same
>>>>>>> area or perhaps we can network you with some resources to get
>>> you what
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> need.
>
>>>>>>> Dezman
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Franandiah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:11 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>
>
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone.  I'm new here and I just want to say, YOU ALL
>>> ARE
>>>>>>>> LUCKY! I go to a very small christian private schools, and I get
>>>>>>>> nothing! I get "enlarged" assignments and extended tests, but
>>> that is
>>>>>>>> about it.  Though I know braille, nobody will provide it for me.
>>> My
>>>>>>>> sight is 20/800.  I am colour blind, I don't have either
>>> preferal
>>>>>>>> vision or depth perseption and yet all I ever hear is "Oh, you
>>> have
>>>>>>>> some sight so use it!" So consider yourselves VERY lucky.  I
>>> would do
>>>>>>>> anything to get braille books.  I can't read this print much
>>> longer, I
>>>>>>>> go home crying because my eyes are burning so badly.  You all
>>> are
>>>>>>>> luckier than you know.
>
>>>>>>>> On 11/4/08, hannah <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> All of my materials are brailled or on audio, but I don't get
>>>>>>>>> extra time on tests...
>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:34:38 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>
>>>>>>>>>>I had braille extra time on tests my books and hand outs were
>>>>>>>>> also brailled.
>>>>>>>>>>Rania,
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm asking this for a class as well as to compare my experience
>>>>>>>>> to yours.
>>>>>>>>>>> I had pretty decent services.  I got braille and audio books and
>>>>>>>>> my TVI
>>>>>>>>>>> was good at giving braille handouts and I got extra time on
>>>>>>>>> tests.
>>>>>>>>>>> As we have discussed before, I struggled fitting in socially
>>>>>>>>> though.
>
>>>>>>>>>>> In my psychology of individuals with disabilities class, I was
>>>>>>>>> asked to
>>>>>>>>>>> present about visual impairment and accomodations and other
>>>>>>>>> academic
>>>>>>>>>>> impact.  So my questions.
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  What accomodations did you use?
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Were they effective? If you used print you may have been
>>>>>>>>> more effective
>>>>>>>>>>> with braille.
>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  What should have been done that was not?
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Common accomodations I can think of are: large print or braille
>>>>>>>>> handouts,
>>>>>>>>>>> audio texts, and extended time on tests.
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> Ashley
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