[nabs-l] accomodations in public school

Tue Nov 11 03:33:10 UTC 2008

Serena,

I can see this applying to the books on the bookshare site.  However,
I'm not sure if the books requested are brailled as well as scanned.
In essence, I'm not sure that the free scanning of said books would
carry over to ordering a free braille copy.  For anyone interested in
a hard copy of a school-related book, this would be an interesting
question to ask.
Courtney

On 11/10/08, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Cortney and others
>
> Now, Bookshare does Braille books for free!  Here's info from Allyson
> Hillicker.  Some of you may know her from various things, including
> Louisiana Center for the Blind.
>
> Bookshare will take book requests from college
>>>students in addition to K-12 students.  We work to fulfill all textbook
>>>requests as well as other books that one needs for school.  As to
>>>non-school
>>>books we will fill requests on a case-by-case basis.  We give priority to
>>>non school related books that seem to have an educational benefit.  You
>>>may
>>>send book requests to me at allisonh at benetech.org or Carrie Karnos at
>>>carriek at benetech.org.  We both process requests, but Carrie does the
>>>actual
>>>scanning.
>>>
>>>Any print disabled student, parent, teacher, or individual working with
>>>disabled students may request a book from Bookshare.org.  In order to
>>>download our books however, one must sign up for a Bookshare.org
>>>membership.
>>>Memberships are completely free to print disabled students at all
>>>educational levels.  Schools or groups serving disabled students may also
>>>sign up for free group memberships.
>>>
>>>To sign up, one can visit the following links-
>>>Individual memberships
>>>http://www.bookshare.org/web/AboutIndividualSubscriptions.html
>>>School or group memberships
>>>https://www.bookshare.org/web/MembersOrganizationJoinForm.html?join=Create+a+School+or+Group+Account
>>>
>>>If you have specific questions about signup, please E-mail
>>>Mandy Throckmorton at mandyt at benetech.org.
>
> Serena
>>>
>>>---- Original Message -----
> From: "Linda Stover" <liamskitten at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>
>
>> Hello listers,
>>
>> Serena and several others broached this question, especially in
>> connection to Franendiah, so I'll try and answer this the best I can.
>> No, the books are not brailled free of charge, or at least, they were
>> not the last time I checked.  On the information page for each book,
>> there is a link for ordering embossed copies of that book.  When you
>> click, it gives you pricing and shipping info.  It would be nice if it
>> were free *smile*
>> Courtney
>>
>> On 11/10/08, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>> Hello Serena,
>>>
>>> Do you mean bookshare will braille books for you? Or, they will braille
>>> books for you at a charge?
>>>
>>> I work in the braille book area, and we can't and don't go on handing
>>> braille books for free to schools, students, etc. After all, our
>>> transcribers, proofreaders and administrative people make a good living
>>> producing much needed, good quality braille.
>>>
>>> If Book Share is able to braille books free of charge, I'd be interested
>>> to
>>> know.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Antonio Guimaraes
>>> National Braille Press
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you have a subscription to Bookshare, bookshare will Braille books
>>>> for
>>>> you.  In case you don't know what bookshare is, it's a service where
>>>> books
>>>>
>>>> get scanned and then put on the websight.  They have textbooks and
>>>> pleasure books.  The websight is www.bookshare.org.
>>>>
>>>> Serena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Franandah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:04 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I've tried talking to people and all they say is "As long as you
>>>>> have sight, you need to use it." So, I can't get any braille. The
>>>>> thing is, our family just doesn't have the money to pay for it
>>>>> ourselves! Is there a way to get books in braille outside of public
>>>>> school services? Is there a way that I can prove that I "need
>>>>> braille"? I'm just so beyond frustrated with both my school and my
>>>>> parents. All my parents are thinking of is having a 'good Christian
>>>>> education and informant." But, they never though of  what it would be
>>>>> like for a child with a disability. I'm not understanding material, I
>>>>> have no friends, I get mocked, and I get up every morning crying
>>>>> because I don't' want to go back to school. My parents just say "Oh,
>>>>> your being so over dramatic! It's really not all that bad! Maybe if
>>>>> you were positive about school it would to better for you!" It doesn't
>>>>> work that way though. I'm struggling so much and my parents just don't
>>>>> think I am working hard enough. How can you work harder than your
>>>>> best? How do you react? What do you do? I mean, Ive threatened to just
>>>>> drop out and leave I'm no unhappy, they don't care. I've already told
>>>>> them I'm not going to collage. How could I? My high school experience
>>>>> is so bad that I know I just can't go on. What do I do?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/8/08, Rachel Becker <Rachel at beckerconsultants.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I know someone who went to private school in Philadelphia and went to
>>>>>> private school and he got Braille services. He's totally blind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Sydney Walker Freedman
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 12:42 AM
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oh that's terrible!  The issue here is that private schools don't have
>>>>>> their own vision staff, braille transcribers, equipment, etc. and
>>>>>> don't have access to the staff, equipment, etc. from public schools
>>>>>> (at least this was true for Arizona).  However, thre should be some
>>>>>> way to still get services.  For example, a good friend of mine went to
>>>>>> a private school but received Braille services and time with a vision
>>>>>> teacher through the public school where I went.  Another thought is to
>>>>>> talk to the people at your school and tell them what you are going
>>>>>> through and that you *need* braille.  If they aren't willing to do
>>>>>> something or to find a way to get something done, then, well, they
>>>>>> aren't doing their Christian duty, as it were.  I can understand a
>>>>>> school not having money or resources, but in that case, effort and
>>>>>> research can do a lot.  Good luck!  Feel free to e-mail me off list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pax Christi,
>>>>>> Sydney
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/5/08, Franandiah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello everyone. I'm new here and I just want to say, YOU ALL ARE
>>>>>>> LUCKY! I go to a very small christian private schools, and I get
>>>>>>> nothing! I get "enlarged" assignments and extended tests, but that is
>>>>>>> about it. Though I know braille, nobody will provide it for me. My
>>>>>>> sight is 20/800. I am colour blind, I don't have either preferal
>>>>>>> vision or depth perseption and yet all I ever hear is "Oh, you have
>>>>>>> some sight so use it!" So consider yourselves VERY lucky. I would do
>>>>>>> anything to get braille books. I can't read this print much longer, I
>>>>>>> go home crying because my eyes are burning so badly. You all are
>>>>>>> luckier than you know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/4/08, hannah <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> All of my materials are brailled or on audio, but I don't get
>>>>>>>> extra time on tests...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:34:38 -0500
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I had braille extra time on tests my books and hand outs were
>>>>>>>> also brailled.
>>>>>>>>>Rania,
>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm asking this for a class as well as to compare my experience
>>>>>>>> to yours.
>>>>>>>>>> I had pretty decent services.  I got braille and audio books and
>>>>>>>> my TVI
>>>>>>>>>> was good at giving braille handouts and I got extra time on
>>>>>>>> tests.
>>>>>>>>>> As we have discussed before, I struggled fitting in socially
>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In my psychology of individuals with disabilities class, I was
>>>>>>>> asked to
>>>>>>>>>> present about visual impairment and accomodations and other
>>>>>>>> academic
>>>>>>>>>> impact.  So my questions.
>>>>>>>>>> 1.  What accomodations did you use?
>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Were they effective? If you used print you may have been
>>>>>>>> more effective
>>>>>>>>>> with braille.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3.  What should have been done that was not?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Common accomodations I can think of are: large print or braille
>>>>>>>> handouts,
>>>>>>>>>> audio texts, and extended time on tests.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Ashley
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