[nabs-l] accomodations in public school

Tue Nov 11 20:52:12 UTC 2008

Well, I've looked at bookshare, and you have to pay for a membership.
Its quite expensive so I couldn't use it even if I wanted to.

On 11/10/08, Linda Stover <liamskitten at gmail.com> wrote:
> Serena,
>
> I can see this applying to the books on the bookshare site.  However,
> I'm not sure if the books requested are brailled as well as scanned.
> In essence, I'm not sure that the free scanning of said books would
> carry over to ordering a free braille copy.  For anyone interested in
> a hard copy of a school-related book, this would be an interesting
> question to ask.
> Courtney
>
> On 11/10/08, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hi Cortney and others
>>
>> Now, Bookshare does Braille books for free!  Here's info from Allyson
>> Hillicker.  Some of you may know her from various things, including
>> Louisiana Center for the Blind.
>>
>> Bookshare will take book requests from college
>>>>students in addition to K-12 students.  We work to fulfill all textbook
>>>>requests as well as other books that one needs for school.  As to
>>>>non-school
>>>>books we will fill requests on a case-by-case basis.  We give priority to
>>>>non school related books that seem to have an educational benefit.  You
>>>>may
>>>>send book requests to me at allisonh at benetech.org or Carrie Karnos at
>>>>carriek at benetech.org.  We both process requests, but Carrie does the
>>>>actual
>>>>scanning.
>>>>
>>>>Any print disabled student, parent, teacher, or individual working with
>>>>disabled students may request a book from Bookshare.org.  In order to
>>>>download our books however, one must sign up for a Bookshare.org
>>>>membership.
>>>>Memberships are completely free to print disabled students at all
>>>>educational levels.  Schools or groups serving disabled students may also
>>>>sign up for free group memberships.
>>>>
>>>>To sign up, one can visit the following links-
>>>>Individual memberships
>>>>http://www.bookshare.org/web/AboutIndividualSubscriptions.html
>>>>School or group memberships
>>>>https://www.bookshare.org/web/MembersOrganizationJoinForm.html?join=Create+a+School+or+Group+Account
>>>>
>>>>If you have specific questions about signup, please E-mail
>>>>Mandy Throckmorton at mandyt at benetech.org.
>>
>> Serena
>>>>
>>>>---- Original Message -----
>> From: "Linda Stover" <liamskitten at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>
>>
>>> Hello listers,
>>>
>>> Serena and several others broached this question, especially in
>>> connection to Franendiah, so I'll try and answer this the best I can.
>>> No, the books are not brailled free of charge, or at least, they were
>>> not the last time I checked.  On the information page for each book,
>>> there is a link for ordering embossed copies of that book.  When you
>>> click, it gives you pricing and shipping info.  It would be nice if it
>>> were free *smile*
>>> Courtney
>>>
>>> On 11/10/08, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>> Hello Serena,
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean bookshare will braille books for you? Or, they will braille
>>>> books for you at a charge?
>>>>
>>>> I work in the braille book area, and we can't and don't go on handing
>>>> braille books for free to schools, students, etc. After all, our
>>>> transcribers, proofreaders and administrative people make a good living
>>>> producing much needed, good quality braille.
>>>>
>>>> If Book Share is able to braille books free of charge, I'd be interested
>>>> to
>>>> know.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Antonio Guimaraes
>>>> National Braille Press
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:45 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If you have a subscription to Bookshare, bookshare will Braille books
>>>>> for
>>>>> you.  In case you don't know what bookshare is, it's a service where
>>>>> books
>>>>>
>>>>> get scanned and then put on the websight.  They have textbooks and
>>>>> pleasure books.  The websight is www.bookshare.org.
>>>>>
>>>>> Serena
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Franandah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:04 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I've tried talking to people and all they say is "As long as you
>>>>>> have sight, you need to use it." So, I can't get any braille. The
>>>>>> thing is, our family just doesn't have the money to pay for it
>>>>>> ourselves! Is there a way to get books in braille outside of public
>>>>>> school services? Is there a way that I can prove that I "need
>>>>>> braille"? I'm just so beyond frustrated with both my school and my
>>>>>> parents. All my parents are thinking of is having a 'good Christian
>>>>>> education and informant." But, they never though of  what it would be
>>>>>> like for a child with a disability. I'm not understanding material, I
>>>>>> have no friends, I get mocked, and I get up every morning crying
>>>>>> because I don't' want to go back to school. My parents just say "Oh,
>>>>>> your being so over dramatic! It's really not all that bad! Maybe if
>>>>>> you were positive about school it would to better for you!" It doesn't
>>>>>> work that way though. I'm struggling so much and my parents just don't
>>>>>> think I am working hard enough. How can you work harder than your
>>>>>> best? How do you react? What do you do? I mean, Ive threatened to just
>>>>>> drop out and leave I'm no unhappy, they don't care. I've already told
>>>>>> them I'm not going to collage. How could I? My high school experience
>>>>>> is so bad that I know I just can't go on. What do I do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/8/08, Rachel Becker <Rachel at beckerconsultants.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I know someone who went to private school in Philadelphia and went to
>>>>>>> private school and he got Braille services. He's totally blind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Sydney Walker Freedman
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 12:42 AM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> oh that's terrible!  The issue here is that private schools don't
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> their own vision staff, braille transcribers, equipment, etc. and
>>>>>>> don't have access to the staff, equipment, etc. from public schools
>>>>>>> (at least this was true for Arizona).  However, thre should be some
>>>>>>> way to still get services.  For example, a good friend of mine went
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> a private school but received Braille services and time with a vision
>>>>>>> teacher through the public school where I went.  Another thought is
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> talk to the people at your school and tell them what you are going
>>>>>>> through and that you *need* braille.  If they aren't willing to do
>>>>>>> something or to find a way to get something done, then, well, they
>>>>>>> aren't doing their Christian duty, as it were.  I can understand a
>>>>>>> school not having money or resources, but in that case, effort and
>>>>>>> research can do a lot.  Good luck!  Feel free to e-mail me off list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pax Christi,
>>>>>>> Sydney
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/5/08, Franandiah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone. I'm new here and I just want to say, YOU ALL ARE
>>>>>>>> LUCKY! I go to a very small christian private schools, and I get
>>>>>>>> nothing! I get "enlarged" assignments and extended tests, but that
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> about it. Though I know braille, nobody will provide it for me. My
>>>>>>>> sight is 20/800. I am colour blind, I don't have either preferal
>>>>>>>> vision or depth perseption and yet all I ever hear is "Oh, you have
>>>>>>>> some sight so use it!" So consider yourselves VERY lucky. I would do
>>>>>>>> anything to get braille books. I can't read this print much longer,
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> go home crying because my eyes are burning so badly. You all are
>>>>>>>> luckier than you know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/4/08, hannah <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> All of my materials are brailled or on audio, but I don't get
>>>>>>>>> extra time on tests...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:34:38 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I had braille extra time on tests my books and hand outs were
>>>>>>>>> also brailled.
>>>>>>>>>>Rania,
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm asking this for a class as well as to compare my experience
>>>>>>>>> to yours.
>>>>>>>>>>> I had pretty decent services.  I got braille and audio books and
>>>>>>>>> my TVI
>>>>>>>>>>> was good at giving braille handouts and I got extra time on
>>>>>>>>> tests.
>>>>>>>>>>> As we have discussed before, I struggled fitting in socially
>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In my psychology of individuals with disabilities class, I was
>>>>>>>>> asked to
>>>>>>>>>>> present about visual impairment and accomodations and other
>>>>>>>>> academic
>>>>>>>>>>> impact.  So my questions.
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  What accomodations did you use?
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Were they effective? If you used print you may have been
>>>>>>>>> more effective
>>>>>>>>>>> with braille.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  What should have been done that was not?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Common accomodations I can think of are: large print or braille
>>>>>>>>> handouts,
>>>>>>>>>>> audio texts, and extended time on tests.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> Ashley
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