[nabs-l] accomodations in public school

Hope Paulos hope.paulos at maine.edu
Tue Nov 11 22:30:54 UTC 2008 

Serena is correct. You can get free bookshare accounts if you're a student.
Go to the website and it will explain everything. I have one and it was real
easy to obtain.

Hope and Beignet

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
Behalf Of Serena
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:21 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school


I actually don't think that's true.  I think you can get it for free cause
you're a student.  Look for an email from me to the NABS list with
information about Bookshare.  I sent it last night or the night before.

Serena


----- Original Message -----
From: "Franandah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school


> Well, I've looked at bookshare, and you have to pay for a membership.
> Its quite expensive so I couldn't use it even if I wanted to.
>
> On 11/10/08, Linda Stover <liamskitten at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Serena,
>>
>> I can see this applying to the books on the bookshare site.  However,
>> I'm not sure if the books requested are brailled as well as scanned.
>> In essence, I'm not sure that the free scanning of said books would
>> carry over to ordering a free braille copy.  For anyone interested in
>> a hard copy of a school-related book, this would be an interesting
>> question to ask.
>> Courtney
>>
>> On 11/10/08, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Cortney and others
>>>
>>> Now, Bookshare does Braille books for free!  Here's info from Allyson
>>> Hillicker.  Some of you may know her from various things, including
>>> Louisiana Center for the Blind.
>>>
>>> Bookshare will take book requests from college
>>>>>students in addition to K-12 students.  We work to fulfill all textbook
>>>>>requests as well as other books that one needs for school.  As to
>>>>>non-school
>>>>>books we will fill requests on a case-by-case basis.  We give priority
>>>>>to
>>>>>non school related books that seem to have an educational benefit.  You
>>>>>may
>>>>>send book requests to me at allisonh at benetech.org or Carrie Karnos at
>>>>>carriek at benetech.org.  We both process requests, but Carrie does the
>>>>>actual
>>>>>scanning.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any print disabled student, parent, teacher, or individual working with
>>>>>disabled students may request a book from Bookshare.org.  In order to
>>>>>download our books however, one must sign up for a Bookshare.org
>>>>>membership.
>>>>>Memberships are completely free to print disabled students at all
>>>>>educational levels.  Schools or groups serving disabled students may
>>>>>also
>>>>>sign up for free group memberships.
>>>>>
>>>>>To sign up, one can visit the following links-
>>>>>Individual memberships
>>>>>http://www.bookshare.org/web/AboutIndividualSubscriptions.html
>>>>>School or group memberships
>>>>>https://www.bookshare.org/web/MembersOrganizationJoinForm.html?join=Cre
ate+a+School+or+Group+Account
>>>>>
>>>>>If you have specific questions about signup, please E-mail
>>>>>Mandy Throckmorton at mandyt at benetech.org.
>>>
>>> Serena
>>>>>
>>>>>---- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Linda Stover" <liamskitten at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello listers,
>>>>
>>>> Serena and several others broached this question, especially in
>>>> connection to Franendiah, so I'll try and answer this the best I can.
>>>> No, the books are not brailled free of charge, or at least, they were
>>>> not the last time I checked.  On the information page for each book,
>>>> there is a link for ordering embossed copies of that book.  When you
>>>> click, it gives you pricing and shipping info.  It would be nice if it
>>>> were free *smile*
>>>> Courtney
>>>>
>>>> On 11/10/08, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hello Serena,
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean bookshare will braille books for you? Or, they will
>>>>> braille
>>>>> books for you at a charge?
>>>>>
>>>>> I work in the braille book area, and we can't and don't go on handing
>>>>> braille books for free to schools, students, etc. After all, our
>>>>> transcribers, proofreaders and administrative people make a good
>>>>> living
>>>>> producing much needed, good quality braille.
>>>>>
>>>>> If Book Share is able to braille books free of charge, I'd be
>>>>> interested
>>>>> to
>>>>> know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Antonio Guimaraes
>>>>> National Braille Press
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:45 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have a subscription to Bookshare, bookshare will Braille books
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> you.  In case you don't know what bookshare is, it's a service where
>>>>>> books
>>>>>>
>>>>>> get scanned and then put on the websight.  They have textbooks and
>>>>>> pleasure books.  The websight is www.bookshare.org.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Serena
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Franandah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:04 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, I've tried talking to people and all they say is "As long as
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> have sight, you need to use it." So, I can't get any braille. The
>>>>>>> thing is, our family just doesn't have the money to pay for it
>>>>>>> ourselves! Is there a way to get books in braille outside of public
>>>>>>> school services? Is there a way that I can prove that I "need
>>>>>>> braille"? I'm just so beyond frustrated with both my school and my
>>>>>>> parents. All my parents are thinking of is having a 'good Christian
>>>>>>> education and informant." But, they never though of  what it would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> like for a child with a disability. I'm not understanding material,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have no friends, I get mocked, and I get up every morning crying
>>>>>>> because I don't' want to go back to school. My parents just say "Oh,
>>>>>>> your being so over dramatic! It's really not all that bad! Maybe if
>>>>>>> you were positive about school it would to better for you!" It
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>> work that way though. I'm struggling so much and my parents just
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> think I am working hard enough. How can you work harder than your
>>>>>>> best? How do you react? What do you do? I mean, Ive threatened to
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> drop out and leave I'm no unhappy, they don't care. I've already
>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>> them I'm not going to collage. How could I? My high school
>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>> is so bad that I know I just can't go on. What do I do?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/8/08, Rachel Becker <Rachel at beckerconsultants.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I know someone who went to private school in Philadelphia and went
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> private school and he got Braille services. He's totally blind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Sydney Walker Freedman
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 12:42 AM
>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> oh that's terrible!  The issue here is that private schools don't
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> their own vision staff, braille transcribers, equipment, etc. and
>>>>>>>> don't have access to the staff, equipment, etc. from public schools
>>>>>>>> (at least this was true for Arizona).  However, thre should be some
>>>>>>>> way to still get services.  For example, a good friend of mine went
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> a private school but received Braille services and time with a
>>>>>>>> vision
>>>>>>>> teacher through the public school where I went.  Another thought is
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> talk to the people at your school and tell them what you are going
>>>>>>>> through and that you *need* braille.  If they aren't willing to do
>>>>>>>> something or to find a way to get something done, then, well, they
>>>>>>>> aren't doing their Christian duty, as it were.  I can understand a
>>>>>>>> school not having money or resources, but in that case, effort and
>>>>>>>> research can do a lot.  Good luck!  Feel free to e-mail me off
>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pax Christi,
>>>>>>>> Sydney
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/5/08, Franandiah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone. I'm new here and I just want to say, YOU ALL ARE
>>>>>>>>> LUCKY! I go to a very small christian private schools, and I get
>>>>>>>>> nothing! I get "enlarged" assignments and extended tests, but that
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> about it. Though I know braille, nobody will provide it for me. My
>>>>>>>>> sight is 20/800. I am colour blind, I don't have either preferal
>>>>>>>>> vision or depth perseption and yet all I ever hear is "Oh, you
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> some sight so use it!" So consider yourselves VERY lucky. I would
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> anything to get braille books. I can't read this print much
>>>>>>>>> longer,
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> go home crying because my eyes are burning so badly. You all are
>>>>>>>>> luckier than you know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/4/08, hannah <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> All of my materials are brailled or on audio, but I don't get
>>>>>>>>>> extra time on tests...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:34:38 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I had braille extra time on tests my books and hand outs were
>>>>>>>>>> also brailled.
>>>>>>>>>>>Rania,
>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm asking this for a class as well as to compare my experience
>>>>>>>>>> to yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had pretty decent services.  I got braille and audio books
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> my TVI
>>>>>>>>>>>> was good at giving braille handouts and I got extra time on
>>>>>>>>>> tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>> As we have discussed before, I struggled fitting in socially
>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In my psychology of individuals with disabilities class, I was
>>>>>>>>>> asked to
>>>>>>>>>>>> present about visual impairment and accomodations and other
>>>>>>>>>> academic
>>>>>>>>>>>> impact.  So my questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  What accomodations did you use?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Were they effective? If you used print you may have been
>>>>>>>>>> more effective
>>>>>>>>>>>> with braille.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  What should have been done that was not?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Common accomodations I can think of are: large print or braille
>>>>>>>>>> handouts,
>>>>>>>>>>>> audio texts, and extended time on tests.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashley
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