[nabs-l] accomodations in public school

[Sydney Walker Freedman]

Bookshare is *free* for students.  :)  So, you should give it a try.

Sydney



On 11/11/08, Hope Paulos <hope.paulos at maine.edu> wrote:
> Serena is correct. You can get free bookshare accounts if you're a student.
> Go to the website and it will explain everything. I have one and it was real
> easy to obtain.
>
> Hope and Beignet
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
> Behalf Of Serena
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:21 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>
>
> I actually don't think that's true.  I think you can get it for free cause
> you're a student.  Look for an email from me to the NABS list with
> information about Bookshare.  I sent it last night or the night before.
>
> Serena
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Franandah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>
>
>> Well, I've looked at bookshare, and you have to pay for a membership.
>> Its quite expensive so I couldn't use it even if I wanted to.
>>
>> On 11/10/08, Linda Stover <liamskitten at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Serena,
>>>
>>> I can see this applying to the books on the bookshare site.  However,
>>> I'm not sure if the books requested are brailled as well as scanned.
>>> In essence, I'm not sure that the free scanning of said books would
>>> carry over to ordering a free braille copy.  For anyone interested in
>>> a hard copy of a school-related book, this would be an interesting
>>> question to ask.
>>> Courtney
>>>
>>> On 11/10/08, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi Cortney and others
>>>>
>>>> Now, Bookshare does Braille books for free!  Here's info from Allyson
>>>> Hillicker.  Some of you may know her from various things, including
>>>> Louisiana Center for the Blind.
>>>>
>>>> Bookshare will take book requests from college
>>>>>>students in addition to K-12 students.  We work to fulfill all textbook
>>>>>>requests as well as other books that one needs for school.  As to
>>>>>>non-school
>>>>>>books we will fill requests on a case-by-case basis.  We give priority
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>non school related books that seem to have an educational benefit.  You
>>>>>>may
>>>>>>send book requests to me at allisonh at benetech.org or Carrie Karnos at
>>>>>>carriek at benetech.org.  We both process requests, but Carrie does the
>>>>>>actual
>>>>>>scanning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any print disabled student, parent, teacher, or individual working with
>>>>>>disabled students may request a book from Bookshare.org.  In order to
>>>>>>download our books however, one must sign up for a Bookshare.org
>>>>>>membership.
>>>>>>Memberships are completely free to print disabled students at all
>>>>>>educational levels.  Schools or groups serving disabled students may
>>>>>>also
>>>>>>sign up for free group memberships.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>To sign up, one can visit the following links-
>>>>>>Individual memberships
>>>>>>http://www.bookshare.org/web/AboutIndividualSubscriptions.html
>>>>>>School or group memberships
>>>>>>https://www.bookshare.org/web/MembersOrganizationJoinForm.html?join=Cre
> ate+a+School+or+Group+Account
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you have specific questions about signup, please E-mail
>>>>>>Mandy Throckmorton at mandyt at benetech.org.
>>>>
>>>> Serena
>>>>>>
>>>>>>---- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Linda Stover" <liamskitten at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello listers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Serena and several others broached this question, especially in
>>>>> connection to Franendiah, so I'll try and answer this the best I can.
>>>>> No, the books are not brailled free of charge, or at least, they were
>>>>> not the last time I checked.  On the information page for each book,
>>>>> there is a link for ordering embossed copies of that book.  When you
>>>>> click, it gives you pricing and shipping info.  It would be nice if it
>>>>> were free *smile*
>>>>> Courtney
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/10/08, Antonio Guimaraes <aguimaraes at nbp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Serena,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you mean bookshare will braille books for you? Or, they will
>>>>>> braille
>>>>>> books for you at a charge?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I work in the braille book area, and we can't and don't go on handing
>>>>>> braille books for free to schools, students, etc. After all, our
>>>>>> transcribers, proofreaders and administrative people make a good
>>>>>> living
>>>>>> producing much needed, good quality braille.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Book Share is able to braille books free of charge, I'd be
>>>>>> interested
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antonio Guimaraes
>>>>>> National Braille Press
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 3:45 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have a subscription to Bookshare, bookshare will Braille books
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> you.  In case you don't know what bookshare is, it's a service where
>>>>>>> books
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> get scanned and then put on the websight.  They have textbooks and
>>>>>>> pleasure books.  The websight is www.bookshare.org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Serena
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Franandah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:04 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, I've tried talking to people and all they say is "As long as
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> have sight, you need to use it." So, I can't get any braille. The
>>>>>>>> thing is, our family just doesn't have the money to pay for it
>>>>>>>> ourselves! Is there a way to get books in braille outside of public
>>>>>>>> school services? Is there a way that I can prove that I "need
>>>>>>>> braille"? I'm just so beyond frustrated with both my school and my
>>>>>>>> parents. All my parents are thinking of is having a 'good Christian
>>>>>>>> education and informant." But, they never though of  what it would
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> like for a child with a disability. I'm not understanding material,
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> have no friends, I get mocked, and I get up every morning crying
>>>>>>>> because I don't' want to go back to school. My parents just say "Oh,
>>>>>>>> your being so over dramatic! It's really not all that bad! Maybe if
>>>>>>>> you were positive about school it would to better for you!" It
>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>> work that way though. I'm struggling so much and my parents just
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> think I am working hard enough. How can you work harder than your
>>>>>>>> best? How do you react? What do you do? I mean, Ive threatened to
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> drop out and leave I'm no unhappy, they don't care. I've already
>>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>>> them I'm not going to collage. How could I? My high school
>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>> is so bad that I know I just can't go on. What do I do?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/8/08, Rachel Becker <Rachel at beckerconsultants.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I know someone who went to private school in Philadelphia and went
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> private school and he got Braille services. He's totally blind.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Sydney Walker Freedman
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 12:42 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> oh that's terrible!  The issue here is that private schools don't
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> their own vision staff, braille transcribers, equipment, etc. and
>>>>>>>>> don't have access to the staff, equipment, etc. from public schools
>>>>>>>>> (at least this was true for Arizona).  However, thre should be some
>>>>>>>>> way to still get services.  For example, a good friend of mine went
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> a private school but received Braille services and time with a
>>>>>>>>> vision
>>>>>>>>> teacher through the public school where I went.  Another thought is
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> talk to the people at your school and tell them what you are going
>>>>>>>>> through and that you *need* braille.  If they aren't willing to do
>>>>>>>>> something or to find a way to get something done, then, well, they
>>>>>>>>> aren't doing their Christian duty, as it were.  I can understand a
>>>>>>>>> school not having money or resources, but in that case, effort and
>>>>>>>>> research can do a lot.  Good luck!  Feel free to e-mail me off
>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pax Christi,
>>>>>>>>> Sydney
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/5/08, Franandiah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone. I'm new here and I just want to say, YOU ALL ARE
>>>>>>>>>> LUCKY! I go to a very small christian private schools, and I get
>>>>>>>>>> nothing! I get "enlarged" assignments and extended tests, but that
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> about it. Though I know braille, nobody will provide it for me. My
>>>>>>>>>> sight is 20/800. I am colour blind, I don't have either preferal
>>>>>>>>>> vision or depth perseption and yet all I ever hear is "Oh, you
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> some sight so use it!" So consider yourselves VERY lucky. I would
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> anything to get braille books. I can't read this print much
>>>>>>>>>> longer,
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> go home crying because my eyes are burning so badly. You all are
>>>>>>>>>> luckier than you know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/4/08, hannah <sparklylicious at suddenlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> All of my materials are brailled or on audio, but I don't get
>>>>>>>>>>> extra time on tests...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:34:38 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I had braille extra time on tests my books and hand outs were
>>>>>>>>>>> also brailled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Rania,
>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm asking this for a class as well as to compare my experience
>>>>>>>>>>> to yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had pretty decent services.  I got braille and audio books
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> my TVI
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was good at giving braille handouts and I got extra time on
>>>>>>>>>>> tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we have discussed before, I struggled fitting in socially
>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my psychology of individuals with disabilities class, I was
>>>>>>>>>>> asked to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> present about visual impairment and accomodations and other
>>>>>>>>>>> academic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> impact.  So my questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  What accomodations did you use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Were they effective? If you used print you may have been
>>>>>>>>>>> more effective
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with braille.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  What should have been done that was not?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common accomodations I can think of are: large print or braille
>>>>>>>>>>> handouts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio texts, and extended time on tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashley
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