[nabs-l] accommodations in public school

Wed Nov 12 14:03:48 UTC 2008

Okay, I will .How do I get ahold of this Kerry Gilmer person? The
reason they can't pay for braille books is becasue there are four kids
in my family and we all go to a Christian school. That is so much
money. My dad works three jobs and my mum works one. It takes a lot,
but I guess that is just what they believe in.  I get mobility
training twice a month and I only got it because I used to go to a
public school to learn braille. That is my main confusion. I learned
braille, but why did I if I will never use it? That is my real
confusion. Why did I waste three years of my life then? I don't know.
I would love to talk to somone. I just need humbers and whne is the
best time to call.

On 11/12/08, Sarah Jevnikar <sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca> wrote:
> Maybe most, but not all. Many private schools have extensive scholarship
> programs too.
> Franandah, I think what Heather and others have been saying is true. It's
> scary talking to someone you've never met before, especially about such an
> emotional topic, but I think it's necessary.
> Also, when you progress with your studies, or enter the working world, it
> will be necessary for you to seek out and/or use resources to help you.
> Unfortunately most people don't know how to properly assist someone with a
> visual impairment, and so you have to educate them and provide specific
> methods and resources you can use together to reach a solution. So if
> there's any plus about your struggle right now it's that you'll gain those
> skills. I'm so sorry things have been so difficult for you, but you will
> grow as a strong independent person through these experiences. I wish you
> had the support of your family, but if you show them how seriously you want
> things to change, by following the suggestions other listers have given,
> then hopefully they'll take you more seriously.
> HTH,
> Sarah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Ashley Bramlett
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:11 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accommodations in public school
>
> Franandah,
>
> Last comment from me since your situation cannot be changed by our
> suggestions; you need an advocate on your side.  Your parents and teachers
> obviously don't understand your vision.  Of course you use your vision but
> its ineffective.
> If you can get a hold of simulators and have these people wear them it may
> help in them understanding your vision.
> Also, it does not make sense how your parents pay for Christian school, its
> expensive, and do not pay for your other needs to learn.  How can they not
> afford it?  Most families who send their kids to private schools are
> affluent.  Something really smells fishy here.
> Anyway if they can not pay as you say, you can get a group such as the lions
>
> club to purchase you an embosser or adaptive equipment.
>
> HTH,
> Ashley
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Franandah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accommodations in public school
>
>
>> Yeah, everyone knows that I'm leaglly blind, they just say that
>> because I have sight I should use it. I go to a really poor school and
>> they say that they won't pay for it. My family just can't pay for
>> tuition and then on top of that, braille books, embossers, and other
>> adaptive technology.
>>
>> On 11/10/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Does your ophthalmologist have any idea that your 20/800 sight
>>> classifies you as legally blind under the law?  What about the Hadley
>>> School for the Blind?  It's a distance-education school for blind
>>> people, and you can take high school classes and get a diploma like
>>> anybody else, and you can also take a fw Bible classes, though they
>>> don't give credit.  As far as a Christian education, you can just go
>>> to youth group and go to church and participate in choirs and such.
>>> Thanks for the info.  I hope I can help.
>>> Beth
>>>
>>> On 11/10/08, Franandah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I never used an E chart. I can't see enough to do that. I've always
>>>> used someones finger and tracked it or something. I do go to an
>>>> ophthalmologist every year. The eye results I get are given to my
>>>> parents. My sight is 20/800. that is what I have been told. However,
>>>> that doesn't seam to matter because my school and TC say "You have
>>>> some usable sight so use it!" so...
>>>>
>>>> On 11/10/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> You could use an eye exam results thing.  You need to see an
>>>>> ophthalmologist, someone qualified to look at your eyes.  Using E
>>>>> chart results will put enough pressure on the school.  Then, what you
>>>>> need to do is talk to an organization like NFB who can help try to
>>>>> pressure the school into allowing you to have audio books and so on.
>>>>> Beth
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/10/08, Franandah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> How?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/10/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Okay.  So you could still pressure the heck out of the school until
>>>>>>> you get what you need.
>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/10/08, Franandah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have mobility training, just no braille books and technology.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/6/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I would pressure the heck out of the school until you get Braille
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> more mobility training.  I get training once a week at the most.
>>>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/08, Franandah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I am soposted to get large print books and assingments, but
>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>> always forgets so I'm always behind in school. I have extra time
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> tests and mobility training twice a month. I really would rather
>>>>>>>>>> swich
>>>>>>>>>> to braille though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a friend who said she got her stuff enlarged while she had
>>>>>>>>>>> enough sight.  She's going blind year by year, and she's fine
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> Braille now.
>>>>>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/08, Sarah Jevnikar <sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had orientation and mobility training too - an hour a week
>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It was pretty awesome.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Hope Paulos
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:47 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had brailled handouts, brailled texts and audio texts,
>>>>>>>>>>>> orientation and mobility training and extra time on tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>> These
>>>>>>>>>>>> were extremely effective.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:34:38 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I had braille extra time on tests my books and hand outs were
>>>>>>>>>>>> also brailled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rania,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm asking this for a class as well as to compare my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>> to yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had pretty decent services.  I got braille and audio books
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> my TVI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was good at giving braille handouts and I got extra time on
>>>>>>>>>>>> tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we have discussed before, I struggled fitting in socially
>>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my psychology of individuals with disabilities class, I was
>>>>>>>>>>>> asked to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present about visual impairment and accomodations and other
>>>>>>>>>>>> academic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impact.  So my questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  What accomodations did you use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Were they effective? If you used print you may have been
>>>>>>>>>>>> more effective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with braille.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  What should have been done that was not?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common accomodations I can think of are: large print or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> braille
>>>>>>>>>>>> handouts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio texts, and extended time on tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashley
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