[nabs-l] accommodations in public school

Wed Nov 12 16:28:11 UTC 2008

Dear Franandiah,
You are leaving me a bit confused. It is me Carrie Gilmer. You and I have
emailed back and forth a few times. I am the one who signed you up to get on
this list so you could talk with other blind students. I have sent you the
email address for the lady in Michigan who can help you. She has sent you an
email which you have not responded to. I resent the email to you with her
email address again. Please respond to that email to braillebeats at gmail.com
the lady's name is Brunehilde, please send her your phone number, your name
of school and name of teacher so she can call you and know how best to help.
I think she also emailed you her phone number. If not she will do so now and
you can call her.

Carrie Gilmer, President
National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
A Division of the National Federation of the Blind
NFB National Center: 410-659-9314
Home Phone: 763-784-8590
carrie.gilmer at gmail.com
www.nfb.org/nopbc

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Franandah Damstra
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:04 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accommodations in public school

Okay, I will .How do I get ahold of this Kerry Gilmer person? The
reason they can't pay for braille books is becasue there are four kids
in my family and we all go to a Christian school. That is so much
money. My dad works three jobs and my mum works one. It takes a lot,
but I guess that is just what they believe in.  I get mobility
training twice a month and I only got it because I used to go to a
public school to learn braille. That is my main confusion. I learned
braille, but why did I if I will never use it? That is my real
confusion. Why did I waste three years of my life then? I don't know.
I would love to talk to somone. I just need humbers and whne is the
best time to call.

On 11/12/08, Sarah Jevnikar <sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca> wrote:
> Maybe most, but not all. Many private schools have extensive scholarship
> programs too.
> Franandah, I think what Heather and others have been saying is true. It's
> scary talking to someone you've never met before, especially about such an
> emotional topic, but I think it's necessary.
> Also, when you progress with your studies, or enter the working world, it
> will be necessary for you to seek out and/or use resources to help you.
> Unfortunately most people don't know how to properly assist someone with a
> visual impairment, and so you have to educate them and provide specific
> methods and resources you can use together to reach a solution. So if
> there's any plus about your struggle right now it's that you'll gain those
> skills. I'm so sorry things have been so difficult for you, but you will
> grow as a strong independent person through these experiences. I wish you
> had the support of your family, but if you show them how seriously you
want
> things to change, by following the suggestions other listers have given,
> then hopefully they'll take you more seriously.
> HTH,
> Sarah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
> Of Ashley Bramlett
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:11 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accommodations in public school
>
> Franandah,
>
> Last comment from me since your situation cannot be changed by our
> suggestions; you need an advocate on your side.  Your parents and teachers
> obviously don't understand your vision.  Of course you use your vision but
> its ineffective.
> If you can get a hold of simulators and have these people wear them it may
> help in them understanding your vision.
> Also, it does not make sense how your parents pay for Christian school,
its
> expensive, and do not pay for your other needs to learn.  How can they not
> afford it?  Most families who send their kids to private schools are
> affluent.  Something really smells fishy here.
> Anyway if they can not pay as you say, you can get a group such as the
lions
>
> club to purchase you an embosser or adaptive equipment.
>
> HTH,
> Ashley
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Franandah Damstra" <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 3:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accommodations in public school
>
>
>> Yeah, everyone knows that I'm leaglly blind, they just say that
>> because I have sight I should use it. I go to a really poor school and
>> they say that they won't pay for it. My family just can't pay for
>> tuition and then on top of that, braille books, embossers, and other
>> adaptive technology.
>>
>> On 11/10/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Does your ophthalmologist have any idea that your 20/800 sight
>>> classifies you as legally blind under the law?  What about the Hadley
>>> School for the Blind?  It's a distance-education school for blind
>>> people, and you can take high school classes and get a diploma like
>>> anybody else, and you can also take a fw Bible classes, though they
>>> don't give credit.  As far as a Christian education, you can just go
>>> to youth group and go to church and participate in choirs and such.
>>> Thanks for the info.  I hope I can help.
>>> Beth
>>>
>>> On 11/10/08, Franandah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I never used an E chart. I can't see enough to do that. I've always
>>>> used someones finger and tracked it or something. I do go to an
>>>> ophthalmologist every year. The eye results I get are given to my
>>>> parents. My sight is 20/800. that is what I have been told. However,
>>>> that doesn't seam to matter because my school and TC say "You have
>>>> some usable sight so use it!" so...
>>>>
>>>> On 11/10/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> You could use an eye exam results thing.  You need to see an
>>>>> ophthalmologist, someone qualified to look at your eyes.  Using E
>>>>> chart results will put enough pressure on the school.  Then, what you
>>>>> need to do is talk to an organization like NFB who can help try to
>>>>> pressure the school into allowing you to have audio books and so on.
>>>>> Beth
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/10/08, Franandah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> How?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/10/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Okay.  So you could still pressure the heck out of the school until
>>>>>>> you get what you need.
>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/10/08, Franandah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have mobility training, just no braille books and technology.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/6/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I would pressure the heck out of the school until you get Braille
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> more mobility training.  I get training once a week at the most.
>>>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/08, Franandah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I am soposted to get large print books and assingments, but
>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>> always forgets so I'm always behind in school. I have extra time
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> tests and mobility training twice a month. I really would rather
>>>>>>>>>> swich
>>>>>>>>>> to braille though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a friend who said she got her stuff enlarged while she
had
>>>>>>>>>>> enough sight.  She's going blind year by year, and she's fine
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> Braille now.
>>>>>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/6/08, Sarah Jevnikar <sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had orientation and mobility training too - an hour a week
>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It was pretty awesome.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>>>> Of Hope Paulos
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:47 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had brailled handouts, brailled texts and audio texts,
>>>>>>>>>>>> orientation and mobility training and extra time on tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>> These
>>>>>>>>>>>> were extremely effective.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:34:38 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I had braille extra time on tests my books and hand outs were
>>>>>>>>>>>> also brailled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rania,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm asking this for a class as well as to compare my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>> to yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had pretty decent services.  I got braille and audio books
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> my TVI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was good at giving braille handouts and I got extra time on
>>>>>>>>>>>> tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we have discussed before, I struggled fitting in socially
>>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my psychology of individuals with disabilities class, I
was
>>>>>>>>>>>> asked to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present about visual impairment and accomodations and other
>>>>>>>>>>>> academic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impact.  So my questions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  What accomodations did you use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Were they effective? If you used print you may have been
>>>>>>>>>>>> more effective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with braille.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.  What should have been done that was not?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common accomodations I can think of are: large print or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> braille
>>>>>>>>>>>> handouts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio texts, and extended time on tests.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashley
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