[nabs-l] accommodations in public school

Wed Nov 12 14:09:55 UTC 2008

Frandandah,

As others here have suggested, an advocate is a great idea, your eye doctor 
would be a great choice or maybe they can recomend someone to help.  You 
might also try putting your argument into a perspective that your parents 
and the school can understand.  Here is one similar to what I used on an 
instructor earlier this year when she said that I could use ANY computer 
with a windows operating system because it has a magnifier, and I shouldn't 
and couldn't use my laptop.  I have changed it to fit your situation.

Which is a more efficient use of available resources for your parents?  
Pushing the car to work every day, or putting gas in the tank and driving 
the car to and from work?  Both of them get the job done, but which one is 
faster and easier?  Of course, we must first assume they have already 
learned to drive.

Now put that to use with Braille.  Once you learn it, your speed will 
gradually increase, just like a person learning to drive a car becomes more 
experienced and confident over time.  Now which is faster?  Tracking a 
single letter in a word at a time like my vision allows (my only eye is 
20/600 with only a 6 degree visual field), constantly losing my place, 
usually taking about an hour or so to read an average page. or using 
Braille, and being able to read that same page in just a few minutes?  Of 
course using Braille is much faster and efficient, just like using gasoline 
and driving the car is much faster and easier than trying to push it.

I can understand how frustrated you must feel, but making threats tends to 
put people on the defensive, and defensive people tend to be more close 
minded, and not willing to listen to your argument or point of view.

I wish you luck,
Buddy
"Self is the only prison that can ever bind the soul." -- Henry Van Dyke

>From: "Ashley  Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
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>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accommodations in public school
>Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:54:59 -0500
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>Frandandah,
>
>That's really surprising you get mobility training but no braille.  How 
>often do you see an instructor and is it off school grounds?  I would think 
>your parents would resist the cane, a symbol of blindness, if they resist 
>braille.
>
>Ashley
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Franandah Damstra" 
><fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com>
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>Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:01 AM
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accommodations in public school
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>>I have mobility training, just no braille books and technology.
>>
>>On 11/6/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>I would pressure the heck out of the school until you get Braille and
>>>more mobility training.  I get training once a week at the most.
>>>Beth
>>>
>>>On 11/6/08, Franandah Damstra <fantasyfanatic01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>I am soposted to get large print books and assingments, but everyone
>>>>always forgets so I'm always behind in school. I have extra time on
>>>>tests and mobility training twice a month. I really would rather swich
>>>>to braille though.
>>>>
>>>>On 11/6/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>I have a friend who said she got her stuff enlarged while she had
>>>>>enough sight.  She's going blind year by year, and she's fine with
>>>>>Braille now.
>>>>>Beth
>>>>>
>>>>>On 11/6/08, Sarah Jevnikar <sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>I had orientation and mobility training too - an hour a week after
>>>>>>school.
>>>>>>It was pretty awesome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>Behalf
>>>>>>Of Hope Paulos
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:47 PM
>>>>>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I had brailled handouts, brailled texts and audio texts,
>>>>>>orientation and mobility training and extra time on tests.  These
>>>>>>were extremely effective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>Date sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:34:38 -0500
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I had braille extra time on tests my books and hand outs were
>>>>>>also brailled.
>>>>>>>Rania,
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:05 PM
>>>>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] accomodations in public school
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm asking this for a class as well as to compare my experience
>>>>>>to yours.
>>>>>>>>I had pretty decent services.  I got braille and audio books and
>>>>>>my TVI
>>>>>>>>was good at giving braille handouts and I got extra time on
>>>>>>tests.
>>>>>>>>As we have discussed before, I struggled fitting in socially
>>>>>>though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In my psychology of individuals with disabilities class, I was
>>>>>>asked to
>>>>>>>>present about visual impairment and accomodations and other
>>>>>>academic
>>>>>>>>impact.  So my questions.
>>>>>>>>1.  What accomodations did you use?
>>>>>>>>2.  Were they effective? If you used print you may have been
>>>>>>more effective
>>>>>>>>with braille.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>3.  What should have been done that was not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Common accomodations I can think of are: large print or braille
>>>>>>handouts,
>>>>>>>>audio texts, and extended time on tests.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>Ashley
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