[nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food

Wed Nov 12 22:36:50 UTC 2008

Hi Beth,
Take your own tray to the dining hall with you.

Places like Walmart have a huge array of tray choices, many of them 
value for money. Spend half an hour choosing the inexpensive tray that 
would most fit your needs. Then, simply take your own tray with you to 
all of your meals in the dining-hall. This will improve your ability 
to be independent and will lessen the ability of others to impact your 
day.

Regards,

Heather Field
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food

Thank God I found this e-mail, Arielle.  I'm having a huge problem
with staff at my dining hall who are not willing to help me get my
food or serve myself.  Since I have to hold a cane in my right hand
and since they don't have trays and since the stations are mre than
one and helter-skelter and since nobody taught me how to maneuver
around that big cafeteria, I'm blown away by how rude the staff has
behaved lately.  During peak hours, I'd walk in and say that I needed
some help, and nobody helps out.  Their excuse?  Short staff.  I spoke
to a few people on the matter, and since the cafeteria people aren't
willing to help, they say I should talk to a manager about this.  I
wish I could see now so that I could serve myself and not have to hold
a cane in my right hand and not have to be so precise with holding
stand-alone bowls and stuff.
Beth

On 11/12/08, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> With serving food as a blind person there are two issues. The  first
> is knowing what you're dishing out without seeing it, and the second
> is properly maneuvering the food with the utensils from the serving
> container to your  plate and ensuring that you are dishing up an
> appropriate  amount.
>
> To resolve the first issue, since touching is not really an option,
> the best thing is to get information--either from people ahead of 
> you
> in the buffet line  or  from whomever is serving the food/setting up
> the buffet. Obviously once you've learned the  order of the buffet
> once,  it'll be easier to go back and serve  oneself independently 
> the
>  second time  around. When serving "family-style"  and passing 
> dishes
> around the table,  this problem is virtually nonexistent since it's
> easy to find  out  what someone has passed  you before serving
> yourself from it.
>
> The second issue, though, is one that does take practice to overcome
> especially for those of us who  were not expected to serve ourselves
> growing  up. I wasn't really expected to do it at all until I was a
> teenager, which  caused  me to struggle a bit with the mechanics of
> maneuvering  the food and  gauging the portion size. I improved at
> this  a lot when I was in training at  the Louisiana  Center where 
> we
> had to serve ourselves in a buffet line (with sleepshades  on)
> whenever someone prepared their final cooking project (a meal for
> forty). Like others  have said, operating the utensils correctly 
> does
> take practice and trial and error. A training center is a great 
> place
> to develop this skill because everyone else is practicing, too, and 
> so
> there's  not  as much pressure to do it exactly right or move 
> quickly
> through the line. You can also  practice by  cooking yourself
> something and transferring some of it from one  container to 
> another
> (even if  it's just Ramen or  Easy Mac).
>
> To gauge portion sizes  I've used two techniques.  One is  to feel 
> how
> much weight I've added to  my  plate  or  bowl and how the weight is
> distributed. The other,  if it's  hot or steaming food that  I'm
> serving, is to hold my hand a little above the  plate/bowl and  feel
> how much heat is rising from the food  and how far  it is spreading.
> If I don't have enough food, there won't be much heat and it'll be
> confined to one little spot instead of spreading across a wide area.
>
> One more thing that hasn't come  up yet is the  proper way to serve
> soup, stew, etc. with a ladel. I used to have the toughest time with
> this  until I went to the center and figured  out what my problem 
> was.
> Because ladels have a sharp curve in the middle, when I was holding
> the  handle straight, the bowl part of the ladel was actually 
> tipped
> and I was spilling stuff before I could get it in the bowl. I had to
> figure out how to angle the handle (so it felt crooked) but the bowl
> was actually facing straight up. I think other  blind  people have
> been fooled by this deceptive handle as well which is why I bring it
> up. You can practice this by playing  with an  empty ladel (like 
> while
> you are doing dishes) and hold  the bowl in your non-dominant hand
> while  you  angle the handle with your dominant one. Bend the handle
> until you can feel that the  bowl is  facing straight up (even 
> though
> the handle will feel crooked) and then try to remember the angle 
> when
> you are serving things with the ladel.
>
> HTH,
> Arielle
>
>
> On 11/12/08, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
>> I pretty much use the same type of bowl, what we Italians call a 
>> maccaroni
>> bowl, so i usually just put as much maccaroni in there as will fit. 
>> I
>> love
>> to eat! lol  Meat is trickier, but I usually have only one piece of 
>> that,
>> anyhow.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Harry Hogue" <harryhogue at yahoo.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>>
>>
>> Serena, this may sound like a slightly silly question, but do you 
>> learn
>> what
>> an appropriate portion size is by weight, etc, or by how many 
>> ladle-fulls,
>> spoon-fulls, etc? I have never really wanted to do that because I 
>> didn't
>> want to slowly anybody down or look awkward, etc. But I agree it is
>> important...
>> Harry
>>
>> --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> From: Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 6:47 PM
>>
>> Hi Harry
>>
>> I always serve my own food at home with immidate family.  I think 
>> it's
>> important to learn that skill.  At family gatherings and on buffet 
>> lines,
>> however, others do it for me cause we're all having pretty much the 
>> same
>> things.  Even at State Convention this weekend, there was a survor 
>> serving
>> the
>> breakfast buffet to everyone.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Hogue"
>> <harryhogue at yahoo.com>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 5:39 PM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> With the holidays coming up, here's an interesting point for 
>> discussion.
>>
>> At family gatherings, or perhaps even at home with immediate 
>> family, do
>> you
>> serve your own plate or do you have someone else serve the plate 
>> for you?
>>
>> As for me, I have always had someone else always serve my plate at 
>> family
>> gatherings and at home with my family, for that matter, simply 
>> because it
>> is
>> quicker and there is less risk of spilling, etc. I am, however, 
>> reminded
>> of
>> the
>> importance of being comfortable with this task by my Costa Rica
>> experience.
>> My
>> host mother told me what was where and even made sure I knew where 
>> the
>> serving
>> spoon was--but I was not comfortable at 20 years old to serve my 
>> own plate
>> and
>> had to ask her to serve the plate for me. This, then, set up a 
>> precedent
>> that as
>> a blind person I needed help with getting food.
>> 'm interested in hearing ohter thoughts. And if we serve ourselves 
>> at
>> home/at family gatherings, I then have to ask what is so diferent 
>> about
>> buffets,
>> especially if you're with someone else and they're getting rice,
>> chicken, potatoes, etc. and it's likely you would want some of the 
>> same
>> things.
>>
>> Just some thoughts to consider.
>>
>> Harry
>>
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