[nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food

Ashley Bramlett bookwormahb at earthlink.net
Fri Nov 14 02:19:07 UTC 2008


Hi Hope,

I do that too.  I ask an employee to assist me in walking around to the 
stations.  My cafeteria is not as big as yours but its nice.  They have 
table cloths there and napkin holders on the tables. The chairs are some of 
the most comfortable on campus, much better than what we have in class.

Ashley


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food


> HiBeth.  I'm not sure how your cafeteria is set up, but if I go to the 
> union, the central cafeteria in my college, which is very big, I go to the 
> cash register and ask someone to assist me in walking around to each 
> station.  Then they'll assist me with ringing me up and to find a table. 
> This cafeteria is really big.  One big room with another room coming off 
> of that and stairs everywhere.  There are balconies to sit  on, too.  It's 
> a nice place, but I don't like the size.  Smile.  As far as what the woman 
> said, it was uncalled for.  Was that an employee that told you this, or 
> merely a student?
>
> Hope and Beignet
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>Date sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:49:24 -0500
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>
>>The reason the staff doesn't want to help at peak hours is
> because
>>there are less of them doing more work.  The manager e-mailed me
> today
>>when I sent him an e-mail.  I e-mailed the location manager
> saying
>>what was up, and he said why not sit down and let somene just
> bring it
>>to me.  Well, not a bad idea.  But I'll have to let him know if
> it
>>appens again.  Honestly, I'm more worried about obtaining my
> basic
>>needs right about now.  But I could get my own tray, but then I'd
> have
>>to carry it around all day.  But then there's this one lady who
> said
>>the staff isn't paid to serve a blind customer.  I mean, not in
> that
>>manner we're talking about.  I didn't appreciate the woman's
> comments
>>as much as I don't appreciate bad service or help forthousands of
>>dollars in a meal plan contract, even though Florida's Division
> of
>>Blind Services sponsors it.  It's still thousands of taxpayer
> dollars
>>going into MY meal plan.
>>Beth
>
>>On 11/13/08, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Honestly, I don't see why the staff doesn't wanna help you.  I
> don't mean to
>>> say they owe you anything, but I even got help carrying my food
> in college.
>>> The trays they had there were simply too big for my really small
> hands.  I
>>> think some of the staff weren't too into the idea at first, but
> then, the
>>> managers got everybody on board.  I realize now, I could've
> bought my own
>>> tray before going to college, but I guess I felt orienting to
> campus and
>>> dealing with hiring and firing readers was more important than
> trying to
>>> deal with the cafeteria scene.
>
>>> Serena
>
>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>
>
>>>> Good idea.  I'll have to go sometime, but how do I deal with the
> staff
>>>> problem now whle I don't have a tray?
>>>> Beth
>
>>>> On 11/13/08, Ashley  Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> Beth,
>
>>>>> If you want to shop at Walmart or somewhere paratransit is not a
> good
>>>>> idea
>>>>> since they can be unreliable keeping you waiting or come before
> your are
>>>>> finished shopping.
>
>>>>> I'd suggest getting a ride.  Much easier said than done.  I had
> that
>>>>> problem
>>>>> too.  But ask around.  Ask your hall mates.  Ask your roommate
> if she
>>>>> drives.  Any friendly faculty or staff?  Once or twice a nice
> nursing
>>>>> faculty member gave me a ride to the mall.  If you do get a ride
> offer to
>>>>> pay gas or something for it.
>
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>
>
>>>>>> Good idea.  However, I have a problem with the paratransit bus
>>>>>> service.  Since I live in a dorm, I can't necessarily designate
> a
>>>>>> place for the paratransit driver to pick me up.  Worse, I have
> to wait
>>>>>> an hour more than necessary for them to pick me back up.  Hence,
> my
>>>>>> friend and I have nicknamed it "dial-a-wait."
>>>>>> Beth
>
>>>>>> On 11/12/08, Linda Stover <liamskitten at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Beth,
>
>>>>>>> What about paratransite?  I have a friend who schedules them to
> take
>>>>>>> him to a particular place, and then pick him up in their next
> window
>>>>>>> of opportunity.
>>>>>>> Courtney
>
>>>>>>> On 11/12/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Good thinking, Heather.  Trick is to get someone with a car to
> bring
>>>>>>>> me down there.
>>>>>>>> Beth
>
>>>>>>>> On 11/12/08, H.  Field <missheather at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Beth,
>>>>>>>>> Take your own tray to the dining hall with you.
>
>>>>>>>>> Places like Walmart have a huge array of tray choices, many of
> them
>>>>>>>>> value for money.  Spend half an hour choosing the inexpensive
> tray
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> would most fit your needs.  Then, simply take your own tray with
> you
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> all of your meals in the dining-hall.  This will improve your
> ability
>>>>>>>>> to be independent and will lessen the ability of others to
> impact
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> day.
>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>
>>>>>>>>> Heather Field
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:02 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>
>
>>>>>>>>> Thank God I found this e-mail, Arielle.  I'm having a huge
> problem
>>>>>>>>> with staff at my dining hall who are not willing to help me get
> my
>>>>>>>>> food or serve myself.  Since I have to hold a cane in my right
> hand
>>>>>>>>> and since they don't have trays and since the stations are mre
> than
>>>>>>>>> one and helter-skelter and since nobody taught me how to
> maneuver
>>>>>>>>> around that big cafeteria, I'm blown away by how rude the staff
> has
>>>>>>>>> behaved lately.  During peak hours, I'd walk in and say that I
> needed
>>>>>>>>> some help, and nobody helps out.  Their excuse?  Short staff.  I
>>>>>>>>> spoke
>>>>>>>>> to a few people on the matter, and since the cafeteria people
> aren't
>>>>>>>>> willing to help, they say I should talk to a manager about this.
> I
>>>>>>>>> wish I could see now so that I could serve myself and not have
> to
>>>>>>>>> hold
>>>>>>>>> a cane in my right hand and not have to be so precise with
> holding
>>>>>>>>> stand-alone bowls and stuff.
>>>>>>>>> Beth
>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/08, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>
>>>>>>>>>> With serving food as a blind person there are two issues.  The
> first
>>>>>>>>>> is knowing what you're dishing out without seeing it, and the
> second
>>>>>>>>>> is properly maneuvering the food with the utensils from the
> serving
>>>>>>>>>> container to your  plate and ensuring that you are dishing up an
>>>>>>>>>> appropriate  amount.
>
>>>>>>>>>> To resolve the first issue, since touching is not really an
> option,
>>>>>>>>>> the best thing is to get information--either from people ahead
> of
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> in the buffet line  or  from whomever is serving the
> food/setting up
>>>>>>>>>> the buffet.  Obviously once you've learned the  order of the
> buffet
>>>>>>>>>> once,  it'll be easier to go back and serve  oneself
> independently
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>  second time  around.  When serving "family-style"  and passing
>>>>>>>>>> dishes
>>>>>>>>>> around the table,  this problem is virtually nonexistent since
> it's
>>>>>>>>>> easy to find  out  what someone has passed  you before serving
>>>>>>>>>> yourself from it.
>
>>>>>>>>>> The second issue, though, is one that does take practice to
> overcome
>>>>>>>>>> especially for those of us who  were not expected to serve
> ourselves
>>>>>>>>>> growing  up.  I wasn't really expected to do it at all until I
> was a
>>>>>>>>>> teenager, which  caused  me to struggle a bit with the mechanics
> of
>>>>>>>>>> maneuvering  the food and  gauging the portion size.  I improved
> at
>>>>>>>>>> this  a lot when I was in training at  the Louisiana  Center
> where
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>> had to serve ourselves in a buffet line (with sleepshades  on)
>>>>>>>>>> whenever someone prepared their final cooking project (a meal
> for
>>>>>>>>>> forty).  Like others  have said, operating the utensils
> correctly
>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>> take practice and trial and error.  A training center is a great
>>>>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>>>>> to develop this skill because everyone else is practicing, too,
> and
>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> there's  not  as much pressure to do it exactly right or move
>>>>>>>>>> quickly
>>>>>>>>>> through the line.  You can also  practice by  cooking yourself
>>>>>>>>>> something and transferring some of it from one  container to
>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>> (even if  it's just Ramen or  Easy Mac).
>
>>>>>>>>>> To gauge portion sizes  I've used two techniques.  One is  to
> feel
>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>> much weight I've added to  my  plate  or  bowl and how the
> weight is
>>>>>>>>>> distributed.  The other,  if it's  hot or steaming food that
> I'm
>>>>>>>>>> serving, is to hold my hand a little above the  plate/bowl and
> feel
>>>>>>>>>> how much heat is rising from the food  and how far  it is
> spreading.
>>>>>>>>>> If I don't have enough food, there won't be much heat and it'll
> be
>>>>>>>>>> confined to one little spot instead of spreading across a wide
> area.
>
>>>>>>>>>> One more thing that hasn't come  up yet is the  proper way to
> serve
>>>>>>>>>> soup, stew, etc.  with a ladel.  I used to have the toughest
> time with
>>>>>>>>>> this  until I went to the center and figured  out what my
> problem
>>>>>>>>>> was.
>>>>>>>>>> Because ladels have a sharp curve in the middle, when I was
> holding
>>>>>>>>>> the  handle straight, the bowl part of the ladel was actually
>>>>>>>>>> tipped
>>>>>>>>>> and I was spilling stuff before I could get it in the bowl.  I
> had to
>>>>>>>>>> figure out how to angle the handle (so it felt crooked) but the
> bowl
>>>>>>>>>> was actually facing straight up.  I think other  blind  people
> have
>>>>>>>>>> been fooled by this deceptive handle as well which is why I
> bring it
>>>>>>>>>> up.  You can practice this by playing  with an  empty ladel
> (like
>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>> you are doing dishes) and hold  the bowl in your non-dominant
> hand
>>>>>>>>>> while  you  angle the handle with your dominant one.  Bend the
> handle
>>>>>>>>>> until you can feel that the  bowl is  facing straight up (even
>>>>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>>>>> the handle will feel crooked) and then try to remember the angle
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> you are serving things with the ladel.
>
>>>>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>>>>> Arielle
>
>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/08, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I pretty much use the same type of bowl, what we Italians call a
>>>>>>>>>>> maccaroni
>>>>>>>>>>> bowl, so i usually just put as much maccaroni in there as will
> fit.
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>>>>>> to eat! lol  Meat is trickier, but I usually have only one piece
> of
>>>>>>>>>>> that,
>>>>>>>>>>> anyhow.
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Harry Hogue" <harryhogue at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:53 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Serena, this may sound like a slightly silly question, but do
> you
>>>>>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> an appropriate portion size is by weight, etc, or by how many
>>>>>>>>>>> ladle-fulls,
>>>>>>>>>>> spoon-fulls, etc? I have never really wanted to do that because
> I
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>> want to slowly anybody down or look awkward, etc.  But I agree
> it is
>>>>>>>>>>> important...
>>>>>>>>>>> Harry
>
>>>>>>>>>>> --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 6:47 PM
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harry
>
>>>>>>>>>>> I always serve my own food at home with immidate family.  I
> think
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>> important to learn that skill.  At family gatherings and on
> buffet
>>>>>>>>>>> lines,
>>>>>>>>>>> however, others do it for me cause we're all having pretty much
> the
>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>> things.  Even at State Convention this weekend, there was a
> survor
>>>>>>>>>>> serving
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> breakfast buffet to everyone.
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Hogue"
>>>>>>>>>>> <harryhogue at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 5:39 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Serving Yourself Food
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>> With the holidays coming up, here's an interesting point for
>>>>>>>>>>> discussion.
>
>>>>>>>>>>> At family gatherings, or perhaps even at home with immediate
>>>>>>>>>>> family, do
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> serve your own plate or do you have someone else serve the plate
>>>>>>>>>>> for you?
>
>>>>>>>>>>> As for me, I have always had someone else always serve my plate
> at
>>>>>>>>>>> family
>>>>>>>>>>> gatherings and at home with my family, for that matter, simply
>>>>>>>>>>> because it
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> quicker and there is less risk of spilling, etc.  I am, however,
>>>>>>>>>>> reminded
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> importance of being comfortable with this task by my Costa Rica
>>>>>>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>>>>>> host mother told me what was where and even made sure I knew
> where
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> serving
>>>>>>>>>>> spoon was--but I was not comfortable at 20 years old to serve my
>>>>>>>>>>> own plate
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> had to ask her to serve the plate for me.  This, then, set up a
>>>>>>>>>>> precedent
>>>>>>>>>>> that as
>>>>>>>>>>> a blind person I needed help with getting food.
>>>>>>>>>>> 'm interested in hearing ohter thoughts.  And if we serve
> ourselves
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> home/at family gatherings, I then have to ask what is so
> diferent
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> buffets,
>>>>>>>>>>> especially if you're with someone else and they're getting rice,
>>>>>>>>>>> chicken, potatoes, etc.  and it's likely you would want some of
> the
>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just some thoughts to consider.
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Harry
>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> info
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/serenacuc
> co%40verizon.net
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> info
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/harryhogu
> e%40yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> info
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/serenacuc
> co%40verizon.net
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> info
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71
> %40gmail.com
>
>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> info
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/thebluesi
> sloose%40gmail.com
>
>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> info for
>>>>>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/missheath
> er%40comcast.net
>
>
>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> info for
>>>>>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/thebluesi
> sloose%40gmail.com
>
>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> info for
>>>>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>>>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/liamskitt
> en%40gmail.com
>
>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> info for
>>>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/thebluesi
> sloose%40gmail.com
>
>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> info for
>>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookworma
> hb%40earthlink.net
>
>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of
> virus
>>>>>> signature database 3608 (20081113) __________
>
>>>>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
>>>>>> http://www.eset.com
>
>
>
>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> info for
>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/thebluesi
> sloose%40gmail.com
>
>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> info for
>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/serenacuc
> co%40verizon.net
>
>
>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account
> info for
>>> nabs-l:
>>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/thebluesi
> sloose%40gmail.com
>
>
>>_______________________________________________
>>nabs-l mailing list
>>nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
> for nabs-l:
>>http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/hope.paul
> os%40maine.edu
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> nabs-l:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net
>
> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus 
> signature database 3612 (20081113) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
> 





More information about the NABS-L mailing list