[nabs-l] money rights

Sat Nov 22 05:03:41 UTC 2008

The only time I've gotten mixed bills is when the amount was something like
$15, 25, 35 or 50 and since I've got some vision it is not too much of an
issue as long as I get the bill close enough to read. Some of these machines
don't talk, at least I've never noticed the headphone jack if they do.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Arielle Silverman
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:52 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] money rights

Hi Scott,

That's interesting--but if you're using a talking machine, it should
tell you how much you're getting and then you can figure out what the
bills are (i.e. if you want to withdraw $40 and you get eight bills,
they must be all fives1!)

I imagine the only time there might be a problem is if something
happens to the machine.

Arielle

On 11/22/08, Scott Spaulding <spaulding.scott at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have had some machines give 5's and 10's as well. Some machines will
give
> $5 increments, at least the ones that PNC bank has in Louisville do.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
> Of Arielle Silverman
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:02 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] money rights
>
> Hi  all,
>
> At the risk of igniting another fiery debate about the accessible
> currency issue, which to an extent has already been decided for us, I
> just want  to make a couple of technical points about how blind
> people handle money. First of all, I have never heard of an ATM giving
> anything but $20 bills. I suppose it's possible, but it's never
> happened to me or to any other blind people I know. Has it ever
> happened to any of you? Since I think I can pretty safely assume the
> money I get from an ATM is all in $20 bills, I use ATM's independently
> as long as they're accessible. Also, when I get money in a store I am
> in the habit of quickly asking which bill is which. I ask, which just
> takes a few  seconds and then I fold the money, put it away and don't
> worry about it. It would seem like blind people would be cheated a lot
> more than they actually are by cashiers when they give change. I've
> been handling money since I was a preteen and have never been cheated,
> and I have  never heard of any other blind people being cheated
> either. Again, if there were a lot of blind people being cheated I
> would be more supportive of moving forward on changing the currency to
> make it accessible, but since this problem seems so rare I  feel like
> it's just not a huge priority--compared to other issues like the low
> Braille literacy rate.
>
> The only reason I would actively promote making currency accessible is
> because this might make it easier for blind people to get jobs as
> cashiers and bank tellers. But even then, I'd imagine that
> inaccessible cashier or bank equipment might present an additional
> barrier to blind people getting those jobs.
>
> The bottom line, though, is if the court has already ruled that the
> money must be changed, we as blind consumers need to be actively
> involved in the process of developing a currency that is truly
> accessible and not cost-prohibitive to make.
>
> Cheers
> Arielle
>
> On 11/22/08, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>
>>     All the while performing financial transactions successfully with our
>> currency as it now is. What happened to the need to first ensure more of
> us
>> have paying jobs so we have money to spend before worrying about how
paper
>> bills can be distinguished from one/another. This is a classic case of
>> "Putting the cart before the horse."
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>> From: "brianna snyder" <briannasnyder90 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] money rights
>>
>>
>> I agree with you, Priscilla. It would be best if we didn't have to rely
on
>> others about things having to do with money.
>>
>> Brianna
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] money rights
>>
>>
>>> Interesting stuff there, Prescilla.  I agree with you.
>>> Beth
>>>
>>> On 11/20/08, priscilla <priscillagarces1987 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> hey all listers,
>>>> How are you all doing.
>>>> I was googling ways of reading credit cards, and I came across this
>>>> interesting article on making accessible currency.
>>>> It appears that bush was the one giving us problems because he is found
>>>> to
>>>> have appealed the jurisdiction of making it accessible providing the
>>>> argument that states that we shouldn't change the currency since we
have
>>>> accessible ways of identifying money through the use of electronic
>>>> gadgets.
>>>> I really think this is very unfair first of all because not all of us
> can
>>>> afford spending hundreds of dollars on such device.
>>>> Second of all, I am a college student who lives independently at a dorm
>>>> and
>>>> everyone is not always there when I need to identify money so whenever
I
>>>> go
>>>> to the ATM's, I have to go with a friend to verify if the money I am
>>>> getting
>>>> is a 20 and fold it along ways.
>>>> I have methods of folding money but trust me, they are not always
>>>> reliable
>>>> and are not accurate because you still have to rely on someone to tell
>>>> you
>>>> what it is if you forget the denomination.
>>>>
>>>> I am very frustrated about this because like everyone else, I want to
be
>>>> able to handle money myself and not trust other total stranger because
>>>> when
>>>> it comes to money, I have some doubts about certain people these days.
>>>> We hear a lot of fraud going on, even in the news and its happening a
>>>> whole
>>>> lot in food places.
>>>> beware of restaurants because some people can be very dishonest and
> steel
>>>> from you especially change.
>>>>
>>>> this is just my personal thoughts and opinions.
>>>> anyhow, the following link is :
>>>> http://www.wkms.org/programming/fuhrmann.htm
>>>>
>>>> thank you very much.
>>>>
>>>> Priscilla
>>>>
>>>> Ps. I really hope president Obama can really change this since
president
>>>> bush was greedy enough to appeal the case.
>>>> Please reply on the list with any opinions of the article.
>>>> .
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