[nabs-l] money rights

Sun Nov 23 11:40:57 UTC 2008

Arielle,

If you withdraw $50 and you get 3 bills, which is which?

Joseph

On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 02:51:58PM +1100, Arielle Silverman wrote:
>Hi Scott,
>
>That's interesting--but if you're using a talking machine, it should
>tell you how much you're getting and then you can figure out what the
>bills are (i.e. if you want to withdraw $40 and you get eight bills,
>they must be all fives1!)
>
>I imagine the only time there might be a problem is if something
>happens to the machine.
>
>Arielle
>
>On 11/22/08, Scott Spaulding <spaulding.scott at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have had some machines give 5's and 10's as well. Some machines will give
>> $5 increments, at least the ones that PNC bank has in Louisville do.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Arielle Silverman
>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 6:02 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] money rights
>>
>> Hi  all,
>>
>> At the risk of igniting another fiery debate about the accessible
>> currency issue, which to an extent has already been decided for us, I
>> just want  to make a couple of technical points about how blind
>> people handle money. First of all, I have never heard of an ATM giving
>> anything but $20 bills. I suppose it's possible, but it's never
>> happened to me or to any other blind people I know. Has it ever
>> happened to any of you? Since I think I can pretty safely assume the
>> money I get from an ATM is all in $20 bills, I use ATM's independently
>> as long as they're accessible. Also, when I get money in a store I am
>> in the habit of quickly asking which bill is which. I ask, which just
>> takes a few  seconds and then I fold the money, put it away and don't
>> worry about it. It would seem like blind people would be cheated a lot
>> more than they actually are by cashiers when they give change. I've
>> been handling money since I was a preteen and have never been cheated,
>> and I have  never heard of any other blind people being cheated
>> either. Again, if there were a lot of blind people being cheated I
>> would be more supportive of moving forward on changing the currency to
>> make it accessible, but since this problem seems so rare I  feel like
>> it's just not a huge priority--compared to other issues like the low
>> Braille literacy rate.
>>
>> The only reason I would actively promote making currency accessible is
>> because this might make it easier for blind people to get jobs as
>> cashiers and bank tellers. But even then, I'd imagine that
>> inaccessible cashier or bank equipment might present an additional
>> barrier to blind people getting those jobs.
>>
>> The bottom line, though, is if the court has already ruled that the
>> money must be changed, we as blind consumers need to be actively
>> involved in the process of developing a currency that is truly
>> accessible and not cost-prohibitive to make.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 11/22/08, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>>
>>>     All the while performing financial transactions successfully with our
>>> currency as it now is. What happened to the need to first ensure more of
>> us
>>> have paying jobs so we have money to spend before worrying about how paper
>>> bills can be distinguished from one/another. This is a classic case of
>>> "Putting the cart before the horse."
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>> From: "brianna snyder" <briannasnyder90 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] money rights
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with you, Priscilla. It would be best if we didn't have to rely on
>>> others about things having to do with money.
>>>
>>> Brianna
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] money rights
>>>
>>>
>>>> Interesting stuff there, Prescilla.  I agree with you.
>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>> On 11/20/08, priscilla <priscillagarces1987 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> hey all listers,
>>>>> How are you all doing.
>>>>> I was googling ways of reading credit cards, and I came across this
>>>>> interesting article on making accessible currency.
>>>>> It appears that bush was the one giving us problems because he is found
>>>>> to
>>>>> have appealed the jurisdiction of making it accessible providing the
>>>>> argument that states that we shouldn't change the currency since we have
>>>>> accessible ways of identifying money through the use of electronic
>>>>> gadgets.
>>>>> I really think this is very unfair first of all because not all of us
>> can
>>>>> afford spending hundreds of dollars on such device.
>>>>> Second of all, I am a college student who lives independently at a dorm
>>>>> and
>>>>> everyone is not always there when I need to identify money so whenever I
>>>>> go
>>>>> to the ATM's, I have to go with a friend to verify if the money I am
>>>>> getting
>>>>> is a 20 and fold it along ways.
>>>>> I have methods of folding money but trust me, they are not always
>>>>> reliable
>>>>> and are not accurate because you still have to rely on someone to tell
>>>>> you
>>>>> what it is if you forget the denomination.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am very frustrated about this because like everyone else, I want to be
>>>>> able to handle money myself and not trust other total stranger because
>>>>> when
>>>>> it comes to money, I have some doubts about certain people these days.
>>>>> We hear a lot of fraud going on, even in the news and its happening a
>>>>> whole
>>>>> lot in food places.
>>>>> beware of restaurants because some people can be very dishonest and
>> steel
>>>>> from you especially change.
>>>>>
>>>>> this is just my personal thoughts and opinions.
>>>>> anyhow, the following link is :
>>>>> http://www.wkms.org/programming/fuhrmann.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> thank you very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Priscilla
>>>>>
>>>>> Ps. I really hope president Obama can really change this since president
>>>>> bush was greedy enough to appeal the case.
>>>>> Please reply on the list with any opinions of the article.
>>>>> .
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