[nabs-l] A common-since legislative idea

[Peter Donahue]

Hello Beth and listers,

        I believe that's what non-valid drivers licenses are for. They've 
worked for Mary, myself and many others  for years. The old saying holds 
true in this situation, "If it ain't broke why fix it."We have bigger 
legislative fish to fry than this.

Peter Donahue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A common-since legislative idea


Blind people should have some form of ID, and the problem I have with
the surrender of a driver's license is this: everyone asks for a
"driver's license."  Not necessarily a Florida Identification Card.
It has a number and that on it like a license, but stll not a license.
Beth

On 3/31/09, Nathan Clark <troubleclark at gmail.com> wrote:
> anybody who is blind should not be driving.
>
>
> On 3/31/09, Jason Mandarino <blind.subscriber at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have had a few friends that are legally blind, but were not in a
>> position
>> of degenerative eye sight. Of course they were of the large print
>> category,
>> but never the less unattractive glasses and additional equipment as they
>> would put it.
>>
>> My only issue with this is that it is yet another thing based on
>> generalizations. I understand the point, but I thin that statements like
>> these am what corner us into our own issues. We are easily caught up into
>> what works for one or a few, and forget that blindness is just as
>> individualized as personality. I am completely for the safety of others,
>> but
>> even when it comes to elderly people and their driver's license, perhaps
>> it
>> would be more appropriate to have them do something more than a written
>> test
>> and a brief eye exam.
>>
>> Unfortunately, there is no expectation to even have driver's education in
>> Georgia, so in my opinion the established safety nets are the true issue
>> not
>> more policies.
>>
>> Mandarino
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> of Jim Reed
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:02 PM
>> To: MAB List
>> Subject: [nabs-l] a common-sence legislative idea
>>
>> Hey all,
>> The following is not going to sit well with some of you so let me preface
>> it
>> with some personal background to set the context:
>> 1. By 2005 I was legaly blind with RP.
>> 2. In the summer of 2007 I bought a car.
>> 3. In summer of 2008, I wrecked said car, with a passenger, because I did
>> not see the sharp turn ahead. Fortunatly, the accident was injury-free,
>> but
>> could have just as easily been a fatal roll-over.
>>
>> That said, my idea:
>> Blind people, contingent upon recieving any government services which 
>> they
>> qualify for,(in part, or in whole) as a result of being blind, must
>> permanatly surrender their drivers license.
>>
>> I know some will say this is cohersive, and it is.
>>
>> Some will say it prevents blind people from recieving essential services,
>> it
>> does; but, no one has the right to endanger the life of another, and, if 
>> a
>> person chooses to do so, that person does not deserve the support of
>> society
>> or it's government.
>>
>> And lastly, some will make a free-choice arguement. To them I would say
>> blindness isnt a choice, its a fact.
>>
>> This is one of those "father knows best" type situations where what is
>> truely best for the individual is percieved by that individual as
>> negitive.
>>
>> As it seems likely that it is the younger blind people who are most
>> inclined
>> to make choices similar to mine, what we are really talking about here is
>> saving the next generation of blind people from injury, death, or legal
>> troubles.
>>
>> As negitive as this may seem to some blind people, if it saves even one
>> life, blind or sighted, then it was worth it.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> Jim
>>
>> "Ability is of little account without opportunity."
>>
>>      |
>>           -Napoleon Bonaparte
>>
>>
>>
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