[nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum

[T. Joseph Carter]

Joe,

You need to read my message again.  My issue is not with the board, 
it is with Antonio.  I've been TRYING TO STOP people who have the 
stated intention of ripping this organization apart.

I have received little or no support from the organization, who has 
largely blamed me for the controversy's existence.  You people need 
to figure out who does and who doesn't have the best interest of this 
organization in mind.

The time was TENTATIVELY SET because there was supposed to be 
discussion here on the list as to whether or not it could or should 
be moved to accommodate anyone who cannot make it at that time.  But 
it seems that this list would rather take personal swipes at the 
board, at me, and at anyone who actually wants a solution.  Either 
that or just ignore the whole thing.

Ever increasingly disappointed,
Joseph


On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 03:48:43PM -0400, Joe Orozco wrote:
>Joseph,
>
>Rather than bitch about how the board could not work its schedule around
>your availability, why don't you offer your suggestion so that people
>participating in the call can discuss its merits?  It seems far simpler than
>using this situation to deliver an indirect blow at the board.  I think
>you're a good guy, hence my being so straightforward with you.
>
>Joe Orozco
>
>"A man who wants to lead the orchestra must turn his back on the
>crowd."--Max Lucado 
>
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>[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 1:31 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Conference call- Election discussion forum
>
>The problem's pretty well established at this point: The 
>election was a mess, and we need a way to ensure that 
>registered members vote, and that they get the same vote 
>everyone else gets to prevent a screaming contest and ensure an 
>accurate count.
>
>I asked to participate in this call because I want to ensure 
>that our next election is not the embarrassment to the entire 
>Federation that I believe our last one to have been.  Of 
>course, it appears that it will be held at the one time in a 
>two week span that I simply cannot participate.  Rather than 
>discuss a possibility of a time when I could, you're trying to 
>start a war against the board.  Good luck accomplishing 
>anything that way.
>
>I expect nothing will be accomplished this way, so perhaps it 
>is no great loss for me to be excluded.
>
>Increasingly disappointed,
>Joseph
>
>
>On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:49:37AM -0400, Antonio Guimaraes wrote:
>> Joseph,
>>
>> How can I talk about solutions to a problem, if I don't identify the 
>> problem.
>>
>> How do I not address what happened in the election process, if I am 
>> meeting to make sure those things don't happen again?
>>
>> I understand about being positive, and constructive, but expect me to 
>> have some measured criticism, and suggestions for solutions at the 
>> meeting.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. 
>>
>>
>>
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