[nabs-l] Update on meeting with a job placement specialist

Sun May 10 11:04:41 UTC 2009

Dominique,
It may not just be the rehab counselor. It might also be the senior 
counselor and then that person's boss. This is the situation that I and 
Rania are both having. I know that because I've talked to her off list about 
her situation. And, if that's the case I would personally only have only one 
other counselor that I could work with and he has the same two bosses as the 
rehab counselor that I'm dealing with now.
Jessica
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Domonique Lawless" <dlawless86 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Update on meeting with a job placement specialist


> Rania and listers,
>
> Make sure that you know what your rights are as a blind student and
> client of the vocational rehabilitation system. Remember too that if
> you know the laws regarding vr and how they apply to you then you will
> automatically have a leg up so to speak when battling the system. If
> you can prove that what they are doing is a violation of your rights
> then you should fight them on it. Too many people just sit back and
> meekly accept what their counselors tell them  when half the time
> their counselors don't know the law themselves and don't want to have
> to do the extra work to help you meet your goals. Another thing to
> remember is the fact that you can file for another vr counselor if
> yours is not helping you meet your vocational and academic goals.
> Standing up for yourself does not make you militant or a bad person
> and if you stand up for your rights then you are not only getting what
> you need, you are showing those in power that we as blind people can't
> be  shoved in the corner and forgotten because of a bit of beurocracy.
>
> Domonique
>
> On 5/9/09, Rania <raniaismail04 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> My point rite on. It will not even give me enough money to hold on to 
>> part
>> time.
>> Rania,
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 10:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Update on meeting with a job placement specialist
>>
>>
>>> Rania,
>>> If you are sure you'll make it in this field, that you can live off this
>>> salary, then go for it.
>>> Continue to sign up for classes and pay for transportation on your own.
>>> Selling things online cannot generate enough money to live on.  So I 
>>> don't
>>>
>>> agree with your counselor.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 8:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Update on meeting with a job placement specialist
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have spoke to someone from the nfb and they told me to keep going with
>>>>what i am doing but my counselor still wants me to get a job but the 
>>>>only
>>>>thing she could suggest to me as a part time job is selling things 
>>>>online.
>>>> Rania,
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Linda Stover" <liamskitten at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 7:33 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Update on meeting with a job placement specialist
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Rania,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd handle it precisely the way you have been for the present, e.g.
>>>>> signing up for classes independently and continuing to pay for
>>>>> transportation.  For the long term, have you considered speaking with
>>>>> someone affiliated with the NFB in your state?  They might have better
>>>>> suggestions for handling the specific counselor you are dealing with.
>>>>> Hth
>>>>> Courtney
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/8/09, Rania <raniaismail04 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> How about in my case whare you took a class twice but failed it twice
>>>>>> so you
>>>>>> looked for another school to go to in your field of choice so you 
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> finish taking the classes you need only to find out that your 
>>>>>> counselor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> instructed to help you come up with a plan for a job instead of you
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> back to school like you would like to. I am paying for school and
>>>>>> transportation this time sinse rehab is not helping me with neither 
>>>>>> one
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> time. I applied and handed in my accommodations and got excepted all 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> own but rehab is trying to push so bad for me to go to work. How 
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> handle this?
>>>>>> Rania,
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 12:55 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Update on meeting with a job placement 
>>>>>> specialist
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Gedi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's right!  Rehab should help you explore all the possibilities.
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, some rehab counselors are better than others and some
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> more open attitudes.  Mine didn't do anything to help me find summer
>>>>>>> employment in college; I found it on my own since fortunately 
>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> program called workforce recruitment program for students with
>>>>>>> disabilities out there.
>>>>>>> I thought about working with kids in childcare or teaching but my
>>>>>>> counselor said negative things.  She did not say No or say it was 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> doable.  However she did imply it would be real difficult and its 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> secure job.  She emphasized how much responsibility it was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't really care about other opinions.  I know my strengths and 
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> stubborn.  So I will try it if I want to.  Right now I want an 
>>>>>>> office
>>>>>>> job.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It pays more and is certainly more secure.  Later on once I've 
>>>>>>> gotten
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> confident in my own skills as well as had a chance to volunteer with
>>>>>>> kids,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I might go into childcare or go back to school for a masters in
>>>>>>> education.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then I will teach.
>>>>>>> I don't know yet.  Part of me still wants to teach but I realized
>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>> soul searching I'm doubtful I can control a classroom and manage
>>>>>>> conducting a whole class.  I don't know if I have the personality 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, we have come a long way but there are people out there who
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> believe only certain jobs are possible for a blind person.  Its up 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>> to stand up and try new careers going with our desires and what we
>>>>>>> studied
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for rather than some mold of what we should do to please a rehab
>>>>>>> counselor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ashley
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