[nabs-l] Update on meeting with a job placement specialist

Mon May 11 17:32:09 UTC 2009

How about when you go to job club to gain work experience, your job
coach talks to the comission about placing you into a temp job program
to let you get a feel on what it's like to work and the whole
comission staff turns it down?  What do you do from there?  I'm being
told these jobs aren't permanent jobs and they want us to have real
jobs but I have no work experience so how will they just throw me into
something I haven't been exposed to before?

On 5/10/09, Jess <jessica.trask.reagan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dominique,
> It may not just be the rehab counselor. It might also be the senior
> counselor and then that person's boss. This is the situation that I and
> Rania are both having. I know that because I've talked to her off list about
> her situation. And, if that's the case I would personally only have only one
> other counselor that I could work with and he has the same two bosses as the
> rehab counselor that I'm dealing with now.
> Jessica
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Domonique Lawless" <dlawless86 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Update on meeting with a job placement specialist
>
>
>> Rania and listers,
>>
>> Make sure that you know what your rights are as a blind student and
>> client of the vocational rehabilitation system. Remember too that if
>> you know the laws regarding vr and how they apply to you then you will
>> automatically have a leg up so to speak when battling the system. If
>> you can prove that what they are doing is a violation of your rights
>> then you should fight them on it. Too many people just sit back and
>> meekly accept what their counselors tell them  when half the time
>> their counselors don't know the law themselves and don't want to have
>> to do the extra work to help you meet your goals. Another thing to
>> remember is the fact that you can file for another vr counselor if
>> yours is not helping you meet your vocational and academic goals.
>> Standing up for yourself does not make you militant or a bad person
>> and if you stand up for your rights then you are not only getting what
>> you need, you are showing those in power that we as blind people can't
>> be  shoved in the corner and forgotten because of a bit of beurocracy.
>>
>> Domonique
>>
>> On 5/9/09, Rania <raniaismail04 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> My point rite on. It will not even give me enough money to hold on to
>>> part
>>> time.
>>> Rania,
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 10:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Update on meeting with a job placement specialist
>>>
>>>
>>>> Rania,
>>>> If you are sure you'll make it in this field, that you can live off this
>>>> salary, then go for it.
>>>> Continue to sign up for classes and pay for transportation on your own.
>>>> Selling things online cannot generate enough money to live on.  So I
>>>> don't
>>>>
>>>> agree with your counselor.
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Rania" <raniaismail04 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 8:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Update on meeting with a job placement specialist
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have spoke to someone from the nfb and they told me to keep going with
>>>>>what i am doing but my counselor still wants me to get a job but the
>>>>>only
>>>>>thing she could suggest to me as a part time job is selling things
>>>>>online.
>>>>> Rania,
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Linda Stover" <liamskitten at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 7:33 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Update on meeting with a job placement specialist
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rania,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd handle it precisely the way you have been for the present, e.g.
>>>>>> signing up for classes independently and continuing to pay for
>>>>>> transportation.  For the long term, have you considered speaking with
>>>>>> someone affiliated with the NFB in your state?  They might have better
>>>>>> suggestions for handling the specific counselor you are dealing with.
>>>>>> Hth
>>>>>> Courtney
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/8/09, Rania <raniaismail04 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> How about in my case whare you took a class twice but failed it twice
>>>>>>> so you
>>>>>>> looked for another school to go to in your field of choice so you
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> finish taking the classes you need only to find out that your
>>>>>>> counselor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> instructed to help you come up with a plan for a job instead of you
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> back to school like you would like to. I am paying for school and
>>>>>>> transportation this time sinse rehab is not helping me with neither
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> time. I applied and handed in my accommodations and got excepted all
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> own but rehab is trying to push so bad for me to go to work. How
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> handle this?
>>>>>>> Rania,
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 12:55 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Update on meeting with a job placement
>>>>>>> specialist
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Gedi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's right!  Rehab should help you explore all the possibilities.
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, some rehab counselors are better than others and some
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> more open attitudes.  Mine didn't do anything to help me find summer
>>>>>>>> employment in college; I found it on my own since fortunately
>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> program called workforce recruitment program for students with
>>>>>>>> disabilities out there.
>>>>>>>> I thought about working with kids in childcare or teaching but my
>>>>>>>> counselor said negative things.  She did not say No or say it was
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> doable.  However she did imply it would be real difficult and its
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> secure job.  She emphasized how much responsibility it was.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't really care about other opinions.  I know my strengths and
>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>> stubborn.  So I will try it if I want to.  Right now I want an
>>>>>>>> office
>>>>>>>> job.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It pays more and is certainly more secure.  Later on once I've
>>>>>>>> gotten
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> confident in my own skills as well as had a chance to volunteer with
>>>>>>>> kids,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I might go into childcare or go back to school for a masters in
>>>>>>>> education.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then I will teach.
>>>>>>>> I don't know yet.  Part of me still wants to teach but I realized
>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>> soul searching I'm doubtful I can control a classroom and manage
>>>>>>>> conducting a whole class.  I don't know if I have the personality
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, we have come a long way but there are people out there who
>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>> believe only certain jobs are possible for a blind person.  Its up
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>> to stand up and try new careers going with our desires and what we
>>>>>>>> studied
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for rather than some mold of what we should do to please a rehab
>>>>>>>> counselor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ashley
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