[nabs-l] Ending the NFB/ACB feud

Tue May 19 04:19:35 UTC 2009

Back in the early 1990's, Dr. Jernigan made a serious proposal to the 
ACB that we hold a joint convention, that is some shared stuff like 
exhibits, as I recall, and some stuff running at the same time so 
people could choose.

They of course refused, because wouldn't come off well in a direct comparison.

Dave

At 10:47 PM 5/17/2009, you wrote:
>When confronted with a proposal I hadn't first considered, I ask myself
>"could it do any harm?" If it could, maybe we should back away from it, but
>if it couldn't, we might as well try it.
>         Now, I don't see what harm a joint NFB-ACB convention could cause
>either organization. As long as we don't concede any of those principals
>which drive us toward self-sufficiency, I think the worst it could be is
>unproductive.
>         Now I would have it be self-supporting. Have a fund raiser, or
>several fund raisers, specifically for this project, and don't tap into the
>general funds. Then you can run the project as you choose, and if it doesn't
>work, no harm done.
>         I don't have much hope for an endeavor like this, I think the rancor
>goes too deep, but hell, if you can do it and fund it, I'll never stand in
>your way. You never know, it just might accomplish something.
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Of Aziza C
>Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:31 PM
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>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ending the NFB/ACB feud
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>I agree with Jim. And I think that some need to stop saying that it just
>won't happen if one doesn't give up. It isn't about who is right and who is
>wrong, it's about who is willing to set aside our differences, come together
>and work together. We are all blind afterall. Besides, those who started the
>ACB, are not going to be running the ACB in the future. Us students, in both
>groups, will be in charge in the future. Students can relate to each other,
>and can be open minded if they choose to be. The older generation tends to
>stick to their ways. Although a joint student meeting will not resolve the
>problems, it "could," be the step to resolving the problems. Jim never said
>it would work, simply that it could, and I think it is worth a try.
>
>Jim, I was personally thinking of doing something similar with my small
>student group from the Channel Islands Chapter, I would be interested in
>your ideas.
>Aziza
>
>On 5/17/09, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> > Jim:
> >
> > I think there are specific issues on which the NFB and ACB can agree
> > and work together, but I think it is unrealistic to think we will ever
> > combine.  First, the ACB was started by a group of people who
> > disagreed with how the NFB was doing things.  Unless they say you were
> > right after all and we were wrong, or unless the NFB says, your way is
> > better, it just isn't going to happen.  Secondly, there are
> > fundamental and basic differences between the two groups, what we
> > believe, how we conduct our business etc.  That stuff isn't, and
> > shouldn't go away.
> >
> > As I say, cooperation on specific issues can and should take place. but...
> >
> > The ACB exists to do things differently from the NFB.  If you take
> > that away from them, there isn't much left.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 03:34 PM 5/17/2009, you wrote:
> >>Terri and Arielle,
> >>
> >>I just wanted to let you both know that one of the members of MABS is
> >>also VP of the National Student Division of the ACB. He is adamatly
> >>opposed to the (bordering on childish) feud that exist beteen the two
> >>organizations.
> >>
> >>I am wondering if we can't use this oppertunity to somehow begin
> >>bringing the two organizations back together. After all, we will be
> >>then next generation leading these two organizations, and if we can
> >>sieze this oppertunity, maybe we students can set the example for the
> >>"adults" within the two national organizations.
> >>
> >>I wonder if a join NABS/ACB student convention would be just the
> >>solution to begin ending this conflict?
> >>
> >>Thoughts?
> >>Jim
> >>
> >>Homer Simpson's brain: "Use reverse psychology."
> >>  Homer: "Oh, that sounds too complicated."
> >>  Homer's brain: "Okay, don't use reverse psychology."
> >>  Homer: "Okay, I will!"
> >>
> >>
> >>
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