[nabs-l] ACB not trying to destroy us?

Wed May 20 02:12:34 UTC 2009

Good evening everyone,

    Oh I wish y'all could have been at the 2009 San Antonio Low Vision 
Exposition held on March 14. This is a blindness and low vision information 
and product fair this organization holds every year. We had an information 
table as did the ACB. If both organizations attended to their exhibits and 
promoted their cause all would have been fine. About mid way through the 
expo several gentleman came by our table pretending to be John Q. blind guy 
wanting information about the NFB. Not knowing who they were we began 
telling them about the organization. About half way through our discussion 
they announced they were ACB members, began pounding on our table,  and were 
going to destroy our organization. Mind you this happened in a public venue 
and was an insult to both our organization and theirs.

    One of them asked who was manning the table. When I announced who I was 
they quickly departed and left us alone for the rest of the afternoon. At no 
time did anyone from our chapter table engage in similar behavior towards 
them. Our chapter president chose to let the incident ride as they did not 
continue to harass us during the rest of the expo. Had I been chapter 
president I wouldn't have been so nice. They could have been asked to leave 
and/or banned from participating in future expos. for harassing another 
exhibiter. They did themselves and the ACB a disservice by behaving this 
way.

    The literature is full of similar encounters between NFB and ACB that 
have occurred through the years. If the ACB is to ever change its image and 
command the respects it wants and craves it must cease and desist from 
engaging in this and other behavior that has garnered an unpopular 
reputation among federationists and others. They would do better to develop 
their own version of Newsline rather than criticizing us for creating it all 
the while subscribing to this service. If they don't like the way we run our 
orientation and adjustment centers let them start their own and run them as 
they see fit. This is a far more positive use of time, resources, and energy 
instead of constantly attacking the NFB. JMO.

Peter Donahue

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aziza C" <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB/ACB

Chris,
Am I correct to understand you are an ACB member?

I apologize if I'm wrong... but, if you are...
Everyone says ACB is trying to destroy us... Chris doesn't seem to be
trying to do that. Sara once was an ACB member, she now monitors both,
and yet she is not trying to destroy us.

What do you guys say to that?

Two people in the ACB wanting to try, is better than none.
Aziza

On 5/19/09, Christopher Wright <chriswright11 at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Joseph,
> 1. If those words were said, I'm displeased with that.
> 2. Don't let those few people turn you away from ACB or the lists they 
> run.
> Negative messages are few in number. Speaking specifically about ACB-L, 
> most
> of the dialogue is respectful.----- Original Message -----
> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB/ACB
>
>
>> Christopher,
>>
>> See my message about their president's opinion of our organization.
>> They do not believe we have the right to exist.  You can't have a
>> meaningful and respectful dialogue with people who are trying to
>> destroy you.
>>
>> "I'm going to kill you!!"
>> "Can we sit down and talk about this?"
>> "I have a knife, and you are going to die!"
>> "When you say things like that, it makes me feel...Urk!"
>> "Now you are dead, ha!"
>>
>> Incidentally, if you see parallels to a certain major world political
>> issue there, you're not alone.  I'm not going there because it's not
>> topical for this list.
>>
>> You can't sit down and talk with people whose primary objective is to
>> ensure that you no longer exist.  Most "war" is fought over
>> objectives.  We want these resources, we want this land, we want to
>> establish this policy/program.  The other side is incidentally a
>> target because they're in the way.  You can determine for yourself if
>> that's the case with the ACB, or if the reverse is true as I believe.
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:15:10PM -0400, Christopher Wright wrote:
>> >Hi Joseph,
>> >I'm also tired of the negative traffic I've come across.
>> >
>> >First as a blind individual, then as a member of ACB, I think there's a
> lack
>> >of respectful dialogue between the two organizations. We may have
> different
>> >opinions on video description. We will continue to disagree on the issue
> of
>> >accesible money and other issues. Let's learn from President Obama. 
>> >Let's
>> >try to find common ground.
>> >
>> >
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