[nabs-l] NFB/ACB

Wed May 20 17:11:44 UTC 2009

Hi Hope,
I also monitor both organizations.
I read the Braille Forum and am a member of their student list serve.  All 
the bickering among the organizations is unneccessary.  I don't think we 
should merge as one due to the structural and philosophical differences. 
But I think there should be more harmony and colaboration.  We have more in 
common than disagreement!

Ashley
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB/ACB

>I too monitor both organizations. I think this feud (for lack of a better 
>word) between the two organizations is unnecessary. Both organizations help 
>the blind, so why not join together???? Yes, philosophies differ, but 
>still, why not join together?
> Hope Paulos and Fidelco guide dog, Beignet
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Wright" <chriswright11 at verizon.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB/ACB
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>
>>I am a member of ACB.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Aziza C" <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB/ACB
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>>
>>> Chris,
>>> Am I correct to understand you are an ACB member?
>>>
>>> I apologize if I'm wrong... but, if you are...
>>> Everyone says ACB is trying to destroy us... Chris doesn't seem to be
>>> trying to do that. Sara once was an ACB member, she now monitors both,
>>> and yet she is not trying to destroy us.
>>>
>>> What do you guys say to that?
>>>
>>> Two people in the ACB wanting to try, is better than none.
>>> Aziza
>>>
>>> On 5/19/09, Christopher Wright <chriswright11 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> > Hi Joseph,
>>> > 1. If those words were said, I'm displeased with that.
>>> > 2. Don't let those few people turn you away from ACB or the lists they
>> run.
>>> > Negative messages are few in number. Speaking specifically about 
>>> > ACB-L,
>> most
>>> > of the dialogue is respectful.----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>>> > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:35 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB/ACB
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Christopher,
>>> >>
>>> >> See my message about their president's opinion of our organization.
>>> >> They do not believe we have the right to exist.  You can't have a
>>> >> meaningful and respectful dialogue with people who are trying to
>>> >> destroy you.
>>> >>
>>> >> "I'm going to kill you!!"
>>> >> "Can we sit down and talk about this?"
>>> >> "I have a knife, and you are going to die!"
>>> >> "When you say things like that, it makes me feel...Urk!"
>>> >> "Now you are dead, ha!"
>>> >>
>>> >> Incidentally, if you see parallels to a certain major world political
>>> >> issue there, you're not alone.  I'm not going there because it's not
>>> >> topical for this list.
>>> >>
>>> >> You can't sit down and talk with people whose primary objective is to
>>> >> ensure that you no longer exist.  Most "war" is fought over
>>> >> objectives.  We want these resources, we want this land, we want to
>>> >> establish this policy/program.  The other side is incidentally a
>>> >> target because they're in the way.  You can determine for yourself if
>>> >> that's the case with the ACB, or if the reverse is true as I believe.
>>> >>
>>> >> Joseph
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:15:10PM -0400, Christopher Wright wrote:
>>> >> >Hi Joseph,
>>> >> >I'm also tired of the negative traffic I've come across.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >First as a blind individual, then as a member of ACB, I think 
>>> >> >there's
>> a
>>> > lack
>>> >> >of respectful dialogue between the two organizations. We may have
>>> > different
>>> >> >opinions on video description. We will continue to disagree on the
>> issue
>>> > of
>>> >> >accesible money and other issues. Let's learn from President Obama.
>> Let's
>>> >> >try to find common ground.
>>> >> >
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