[nabs-l] Ending the NFB/ACB feud

T. Joseph Carter carter.tjoseph at gmail.com
Wed May 20 02:49:24 UTC 2009


Sarah, I am willing to do this for the NFB's position, but I feel 
unqualified to accurately represent the ACB view.  Perhaps you can 
come up with a group of categories and issues upon which you would 
like to see a position statement and ask someone particularly 
well-spoken from the ACB to offer an opinion?

Carl might do it, if you asked him.  He's reasonably level-headed and 
very intelligent.

About the best way to get something you can call objective is to have 
each organization speak only for itself.

Joseph


On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:22:19PM -0400, sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Could someone please, as objectively as possible, explain the NFB versus 
> ACB issues? I don't really get what the big deal is ...
> Thank you,
> Sarah
> Quoting David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>:
>
>> Jim:
>>
>> I think there are specific issues on which the NFB and ACB can agree
>> and work together, but I think it is unrealistic to think we will ever
>> combine.  First, the ACB was started by a group of people who disagreed
>> with how the NFB was doing things.  Unless they say you were right
>> after all and we were wrong, or unless the NFB says, your way is
>> better, it just isn't going to happen.  Secondly, there are fundamental
>> and basic differences between the two groups, what we believe, how we
>> conduct our business etc.  That stuff isn't, and shouldn't go away.
>>
>> As I say, cooperation on specific issues can and should take place. but...
>>
>> The ACB exists to do things differently from the NFB.  If you take that
>> away from them, there isn't much left.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 03:34 PM 5/17/2009, you wrote:
>>> Terri and Arielle,
>>>
>>> I just wanted to let you both know that one of the members of MABS   
>>> is also VP of the National Student Division of the ACB. He is   
>>> adamatly opposed to the (bordering on childish) feud that exist   
>>> beteen the two organizations.
>>>
>>> I am wondering if we can't use this oppertunity to somehow begin   
>>> bringing the two organizations back together. After all, we will be  
>>> then next generation leading these two organizations, and if we can  
>>> sieze this oppertunity, maybe we students can set the example for  
>>> the "adults" within the two national organizations.
>>>
>>> I wonder if a join NABS/ACB student convention would be just the   
>>> solution to begin ending this conflict?
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Homer Simpson's brain: "Use reverse psychology."
>>> Homer: "Oh, that sounds too complicated."
>>> Homer's brain: "Okay, don't use reverse psychology."
>>> Homer: "Okay, I will!"
>>>
>>>
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