[nabs-l] handicaped parking

T. Joseph Carter carter.tjoseph at gmail.com
Wed May 20 04:13:04 UTC 2009


Ashley,

http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindtlk_nfbnet.org       

It's just like the ten thousand other NFB lists.

Joseph


On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 07:43:50PM -0400, Ashley  Bramlett wrote:
> Joseph, how do you subscribe to that list?  Is it run by nfb?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Joseph Carter" 
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] handicaped parking
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>
>> We have that list.  It's blind-talk.  Actually, it's "blindtlk", 
>> because Dave's never bothered with the considerable effort needed to 
>> rename it. Creating the new list, moving archives over, moving 
>> subscribers over, setting up aliases to make the old list name work for 
>> people who are unaware of the change, etc.
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 01:41:17PM -0700, William ODonnell wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the Nabbs list could be used for more productive topics 
>>> related to students, colleges and univercities, legal issues with 
>>> higher education; not, issues concerning parks, passes, and 
>>> "freebees."  I understand each one of us look for outlets and spaces 
>>> to vent; however, we can maybe set up a special list for issues with 
>>> dailly discussions with special topics in a "random" list.  It could 
>>> be in-titled: random thoughts/discussions at nfbnet.org or something 
>>> elce.
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Jim Reed <jim275_2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Jim Reed <jim275_2 at yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] handicaped parking
>>>> To: "NABS mail list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 1:50 PM
>>>> Courtney,
>>>>
>>>> How many people on this list have ever been to a national
>>>> park? How many go on a regular basis? When was the last time
>>>> you went to a national park?
>>>>
>>>> The answer to those questions is why the NPS provides a
>>>> free disability pass. As I said yeasterday, the purpose of
>>>> the NPS pass is to encoueage disabled persons to use the
>>>> parks. Think about it, if a disabled person has enough money
>>>> to go on vacation to visit a national park, clearly they
>>>> have the ability to afford a $25 park entrance fee.
>>>> Therefore, what would be the point of providing a pass if it
>>>> was not for the purposes of encouraging disabled persons to
>>>> use the national parks?
>>>>
>>>> Or, think of it in another context. Consider the First-time
>>>> home buyer's tax credit. Are first time home buyers so broke
>>>> that the governemt must target them for a tax break, or is
>>>> the purpose of the first time home buyer's tax credit to
>>>> incourage first time home buyers to buy that first home?
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> Here's where I disagree. Why would a disabled person
>>>> necessarily
>>>> require a pass to utalize the park service? In other
>>>> words, does the
>>>> rationale still come down to the fact that we are too poor
>>>> to pay the
>>>> required fee? If it doesn't, I really would be interested
>>>> in what the
>>>> rationale is for giving us free passes. Why are we a
>>>> minority they
>>>> want to recruit, even going to the expense/loss of revenue
>>>> of offering
>>>> free passes?
>>>> Courtney
>>>>
>>>> Homer Simpson's brain: "Use reverse psychology." Homer: "Oh, that 
>>>> sounds too complicated." Homer's brain: "Okay, don't use reverse 
>>>> psychology."
>>>>  Homer: "Okay, I will!"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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