[nabs-l] handicapped parking

David Andrews dandrews at visi.com
Fri May 22 09:34:50 UTC 2009


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At 06:43 PM 5/19/2009, you wrote:
>Joseph, how do you subscribe to that list?  Is it run by nfb?
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>----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Joseph Carter" 
><carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
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>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] handicaped parking
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>>We have that list.  It's blind-talk.  Actually, it's "blindtlk", 
>>because Dave's never bothered with the considerable effort needed 
>>to rename it. Creating the new list, moving archives over, moving 
>>subscribers over, setting up aliases to make the old list name work 
>>for people who are unaware of the change, etc.
>>
>>Joseph
>>
>>
>>On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 01:41:17PM -0700, William ODonnell wrote:
>>>
>>>I think the Nabbs list could be used for more productive topics 
>>>related to students, colleges and univercities, legal issues with 
>>>higher education; not, issues concerning parks, passes, and 
>>>"freebees."  I understand each one of us look for outlets and 
>>>spaces to vent; however, we can maybe set up a special list for 
>>>issues with dailly discussions with special topics in a "random" 
>>>list.  It could be in-titled: random 
>>>thoughts/discussions at nfbnet.org or something elce.
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>>
>>>--- On Mon, 5/18/09, Jim Reed <jim275_2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>From: Jim Reed <jim275_2 at yahoo.com>
>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] handicaped parking
>>>>To: "NABS mail list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 1:50 PM
>>>>Courtney,
>>>>
>>>>How many people on this list have ever been to a national
>>>>park? How many go on a regular basis? When was the last time
>>>>you went to a national park?
>>>>
>>>>The answer to those questions is why the NPS provides a
>>>>free disability pass. As I said yeasterday, the purpose of
>>>>the NPS pass is to encoueage disabled persons to use the
>>>>parks. Think about it, if a disabled person has enough money
>>>>to go on vacation to visit a national park, clearly they
>>>>have the ability to afford a $25 park entrance fee.
>>>>Therefore, what would be the point of providing a pass if it
>>>>was not for the purposes of encouraging disabled persons to
>>>>use the national parks?
>>>>
>>>>Or, think of it in another context. Consider the First-time
>>>>home buyer's tax credit. Are first time home buyers so broke
>>>>that the governemt must target them for a tax break, or is
>>>>the purpose of the first time home buyer's tax credit to
>>>>incourage first time home buyers to buy that first home?
>>>>
>>>>Jim
>>>>
>>>>Jim
>>>>Jim,
>>>>
>>>>Here's where I disagree. Why would a disabled person
>>>>necessarily
>>>>require a pass to utalize the park service? In other
>>>>words, does the
>>>>rationale still come down to the fact that we are too poor
>>>>to pay the
>>>>required fee? If it doesn't, I really would be interested
>>>>in what the
>>>>rationale is for giving us free passes. Why are we a
>>>>minority they
>>>>want to recruit, even going to the expense/loss of revenue
>>>>of offering
>>>>free passes?
>>>>Courtney
>>>>
>>>>Homer Simpson's brain: "Use reverse psychology." Homer: "Oh, that 
>>>>sounds too complicated." Homer's brain: "Okay, don't use reverse psychology."
>>>>  Homer: "Okay, I will!"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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