[nabs-l] Ending the NFB/ACB feud

[Melissa Green]

I agree.  if your friendship is thrown in your face, or you are used for
information.
Then you become very leary of people.
I have had my offer of friendship thrown in my face by some members of the
ACB.  I also have been used to gather information as well.  I also have to
say that the same has happened with a few members of the NFB.  Those
types of members don't stay around the NFb.

Melissa Green
The most splendid achievement of all is the constant striving to surpass
yourself and to be worthy of your own approval.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
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Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ending the NFB/ACB feud


> Aziza,
>
> Cooperation and trust are two-way streets.  You've had those who are
> willing, but some of us have extended our hand in friendship only to have
> it bitten off at the shoulder.  Most of those aren't willing to experience
> that again willingly unless something has changed.  It's been just a year
> since I tried, so I doubt that much has.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 08:49:37PM -0700, Aziza C wrote:
>>Joesiph,
>>I expect things from the NFB because I believe in it.
>>
>>I don't expect anything from the ACB, at least not yet. I don't know
>>them well enough to make those observations. However, I have seen what
>>the NFB is capable of, and I don't think sitting here and fuming over
>>the fact that the ACB "hates," us is a productive way to spend my time
>>as an NFB member. I'd much rather try to resolve it, and do something
>>about it. I expect things from the NFB because i know it can happen if
>>people would stop making excuses and actually try to think of
>>productive ways to make things work.
>>Aziza
>>
>>On 5/19/09, T. Joseph Carter <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> To the ACB's credit, the people running their student list when I was
>>> on it would not tolerate attacks on the NFB on that list.  The other
>>> lists were another story, but the student list was free of that kind
>>> of thing for the most part and the moderators worked to keep it that
>>> way.
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 06:45:37PM -0400, Ashley  Bramlett wrote:
>>>> Hi Tina,
>>>> I've not heard it from nfb members.  But from ACB members.
>>>> I've heard and experienced the differences and attacks.  At local ACB
>>>> meetings it comes  up; occassional attacks but most often just a
>>>> different set of philosophies and priorities.  Additional as someone
>>>> pointed out, I've heard the NFB villified on ACB-L the list serve for
>>>> ACB
>>>> similar to NFB's nfb-talk.
>>>> That is what I meant by hating each other.  Sadly there is too much
>>>> friction and attack.  More often its from older members.  ACB students
>>>> and young adults are more open.  However ACB has a majority of older
>>>> foks.
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
>>>
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