[nabs-l] Ending the NFB/ACB feud

Fri May 22 00:06:37 UTC 2009

Jordan,

One big organization for the blind is something beyond our dreams. It 
doesn't seam plausable because of the differences in philosophy. This is 
true not only from the NFB point of view, but also from an ACB standpoint.

This thread was started on the ACB NABS list by I believe patric, and there, 
I suggested the two NABS groups put their heads together after convention is 
over, and both groups have a newly ellected board.

The two boards should talk under somewhat moderated formats to go over what 
it is we can agree on, and what it is we will just agree to disagree.

Who knows, this could fall apart like the merchant merger attempt did, but 
this need not, and should not be any merger. In other words, we should talk 
and be civil like democrats and republicans are civil to each other, and 
that will, believe it or not, be an improvement. Them politicians are only 
separated by an aisle, and we are separated by more than that--including 
some bickering, and lots of attacks.

Where ever there is common ground, methinks we aught to join efforts. And 
when the camp reaches points of contention, we should be adults about it.

Antonio Guimaraes

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trucks fire an infinite number of shotgun rounds at an infinite number of 
highway signs, they will eventually produce all the world's great literary 
works in Braille.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jordan Richardson" <lilrichie411 at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ending the NFB/ACB feud

> Is the ACB student division willing to end the feud?  Does anyone know?  I
> have been wondering about getting the ACB and NFB back together for a 
> while.
> I mean, I went to their website, just to check it out, and I found that 
> the
> only main difference between the two is in their philosophies.  I 
> understand
> that NFB can't really compromise their philosophy, but we could at least
> find some way to work together.  I mean, both NFB and ACB have scholarship
> programs (ACB's is more than just proof of legal blindness, but also 
> entails
> an essay, letters of recommendation, etc.), student divisions, and they 
> way
> we both organize our organizations is similar.  I think, if the ACB 
> students
> would be willing, and since we students are the future, we could work on
> bringing the two back together forming one big organization of the blind.
>
> Jordan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of sarah.jevnikar at utoronto.ca
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:22 PM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ending the NFB/ACB feud
>
>
> Hi all,
> Could someone please, as objectively as possible, explain the NFB
> versus ACB issues? I don't really get what the big deal is ...
> Thank you,
> Sarah
> Quoting David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>:
>
>> Jim:
>>
>> I think there are specific issues on which the NFB and ACB can agree
>> and work together, but I think it is unrealistic to think we will ever
>> combine.  First, the ACB was started by a group of people who disagreed
>> with how the NFB was doing things.  Unless they say you were right
>> after all and we were wrong, or unless the NFB says, your way is
>> better, it just isn't going to happen.  Secondly, there are fundamental
>> and basic differences between the two groups, what we believe, how we
>> conduct our business etc.  That stuff isn't, and shouldn't go away.
>>
>> As I say, cooperation on specific issues can and should take place. 
>> but...
>>
>> The ACB exists to do things differently from the NFB.  If you take that
>> away from them, there isn't much left.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 03:34 PM 5/17/2009, you wrote:
>>> Terri and Arielle,
>>>
>>> I just wanted to let you both know that one of the members of MABS
>>> is also VP of the National Student Division of the ACB. He is
>>> adamatly opposed to the (bordering on childish) feud that exist
>>> beteen the two organizations.
>>>
>>> I am wondering if we can't use this oppertunity to somehow begin
>>> bringing the two organizations back together. After all, we will be
>>>  then next generation leading these two organizations, and if we
>>> can  sieze this oppertunity, maybe we students can set the example
>>> for  the "adults" within the two national organizations.
>>>
>>> I wonder if a join NABS/ACB student convention would be just the
>>> solution to begin ending this conflict?
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Homer Simpson's brain: "Use reverse psychology."
>>> Homer: "Oh, that sounds too complicated."
>>> Homer's brain: "Okay, don't use reverse psychology."
>>> Homer: "Okay, I will!"
>>>
>>>
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