[nabs-l] A Soul-Searching Exercise

Fri May 22 20:53:33 UTC 2009

What does recording a meeting entail?
What funds are necessary and not present? What would these funds pay for?
Aziza

On 5/22/09, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Good afternoon Ashley and listers,
>
>     Are you willing to do this for NABS? Make the recording and I'm sure it
> will be posted on your Web site. If someone does this and if they're looking
> for a career in broadcasting or professional recording such a project would
> be one for the resume. --
>
>     If I'm asked by the Living History Group to record the meeting I'm glad
> to do it,but there are many talented members of this division capable of
> handling such a project.
>
>     Now for the big question. If you can't find a way to record your
> division meetings and activities how in the Hell are you going to bring the
> NFB and ACB together!? Recall that earlier this week I likened that project
> a kin to blowing up the Hoover Dam and rebuilding it without being berried
> in the concreet. I think that at this point in timeconcentrating on such
> initiatives as recording and posting the meeting recordings online is a much
> smaller task and one that in its own way will contribute to reaching new
> blind students including ACB NABS Members with our message and correct
> information about the NFB. Will you rise to the challenge?
>
> Peter Donahue
>
> --- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Employment Seminar Recordings
>
>
> Peter and Jim,
> Its disappointing that the employment seminar will not be recorded.  I do
> understand Jim's frustration.  But I see where Arielle is coming from in
> terms of funding.  NABs did not want to fund it because its an event
> targeted to everyone not just students.
>
> Maybe next year's will be recorded.   For now I second what you said Peter.
> Please make it a priority to
> record the nabs meeting and post it to the division website.  I would
> listen.  I think it will be beneficial for all then.
>
> Ashley
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 1:48 AM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Employment Seminar Recordings
>
>
>> Hello Jim and listers,
>>
>>    At the end of the day the Employment Committee Chairperson decided that
>> it was best not to record this year's employment workshop. She had no
>> objection to this being done, but felt that it would be better to hold off
>> and make better plans to do this next year. As the NFB Living  History
>> Group
>> gets up and running in a big way we expect to be recording more convention
>> break-out events. Perhaps a better goal is to ensure that this year's NABS
>> meeting is recorded for posting on the division Web Site. Your efforts
>> weren't in vein. We feel that it's best to hold off with this one and make
>> better plans to do it in the future.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Reed" <jim275_2 at yahoo.com>
>> To: "NABS mail list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:05 PM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] ACB/NFB
>>
>>
>> Dave,
>> How are we supposed to "walk the walk" when there is so much negitivity
>> coming from NABS leadership regarding this issue (how it wont work)?
>> Specificly, I remember one post (I don't know who sent it) that said
>> something along the lines of "I don't see the harm in trying, but NABS is
>> not (should not) pay for it." Why should I devote my time and energy to
>> this
>> effort when I know it will get shut down when I ask NABS for funding?
>>
>> The same thing happened when I floated the idea of recording the national
>> convention employment seminar. (actually, I thing it was worse. I felt
>> decieved). First, several people in the NABS leadership (including
>> Areielle
>> Silverman) mentioned that they thought it was a good idea that was worthy
>> of
>> being pursued. So, I pursued the idea thinking that I had the support of
>> NABS, then, when it came time for NABS to fund the idea, I get an email
>> from
>> Arielle Silverman saying something along the lines of "sorry, this isn't a
>> NABS event/project, therefore NABS can't/won't fund it." I put alot of
>> time
>> and effort into pursuing that idea, just to find out that when
>> push-comes-to-shove, I really did not have the support of NABS.
>>
>> So, I ask you, why should I invest the time and energy into
>> "walking-the-walk", when I was decieved last time, and clearly NABS has no
>> interest in pursuing a joint convention?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> From: "Dave Wright" <gymnastdave at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Ending the NFB/ACB feud
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>
>> Good afternoon all,
>> While I've really enjoyed reading all of these messages about finding a
>> way
>> to set aside the differences of both organizations in order to find a
>> common
>> ground on the student level, I'm wondering whether or not if any of the
>> proponents of this idea have taken an active role of setting up a meetting
>> involving students of both organizations on a local level. Since I believe
>> that students should have a choice when it comes to advocacy, I don't mind
>> that there are more than one organization advocating for the rights of
>> blind
>> students. I know how easy it is to talk the talk, but walking the walk and
>> being an active proponent for change is much harder. While the thought of
>> national change is perhaps an idealistic view, lets try first dealing with
>> local change. I know this discussion has leaked over to the ACB listServe
>> and believe both sides have positive feedback to offer.
>> Just my thoughts.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards:
>> Dave Wright
>> Work Phone: 651-636-5184 X803
>> Email:
>> dwrigh6 at gmail.com
>> WebPage:
>> http://www.knfbreader.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> Homer Simpson's brain: "Use reverse psychology."
>> Homer: "Oh, that sounds too complicated."
>> Homer's brain: "Okay, don't use reverse psychology."
>> Homer: "Okay, I will!"
>>
>>
>>
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