[nabs-l] learning independent living

Tue May 26 06:14:34 UTC 2009

This is in New Jersey.  It's the New Jersey Foundation for the blind
in Denville.  Where is the Cleveland center?

On 5/25/09, Ashley  Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Christina,
> That's unfortunate the center graduated you too fast; you're probably not
> alone in being frustrated.
> Wich state is this?  In our state the state run rehab center in richmond Va
> tries to meet client needs all at once by offering  different classes,
> changing schedules as you master skills and no longer need the class, doing
> evaluations periodically and more.
> I never got the impression they push students out before they're ready.  If
> a client needs to come back they are allowed to if they can justify they
> really need it and have specific goals.  There is a limited space at the
> center so they rather you not come back but you can if needed.
>
> If you want to go back you have a right to as part of informed choice for
> your rehab/vocational goals.
> Why would you be too old?  Doesn't make sense to me.  Our center takes
> clients of all ages from 18 and over.
> I hope it works out.
> I agree you should be allowed to go back to the center.  Also them telling
> you just to settle for
> an instructor coming to your home to show you more isn't acceptable.
> I tried that.  The rehab teachers could not come enough to meet my needs due
> to a large client caseload.
>
> Consider outside centers
> such as Cleveland sight center or nfb centers.  Cleveland sight center has
> apartment style living and seems to individualize their program.
> I've met people who went there and they say it was good.
>
> Ashley
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christina Mitchell" <cnaylor073 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] learning independent living
>
>
>>I never got a letter saying I was incapable, however I did go to a
>> center where they would graduate you too fast.  What I mean is say if
>> you still need additional help on cooking for instance, they would
>> assume you're ready to graduate the program when you're not ready to
>> graduate.  They told me that if I needed additional help, I could get
>> an instructor to come to my house and show me things but I've recently
>> had a problem with an A d l instructor whom I wish not to mention any
>> names, and have wanted to go back to the centers but they say I'm too
>> old and have graduated.  I feel they're just doing this to cut back on
>> the number of students they get a year, throw out the old ones and
>> welcome in the new ones.  I don't feel this is right.  If a student
>> feels he or she needs additional help with A D L, they should be
>> always welcome to come back.
>>
>> On 5/25/09, Ashley  Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Sara,
>>> There are some bad centers out there.  These individuals must have
>>> encountered that.
>>> Most centers will meet the person where they're at.  The student will be
>>> pushed but can learn at their pace.
>>> Those centers sending out such nasty letters stating the individual is
>>> incapable of learning are opening themselves to lawsuits.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sarah J. Blake" <sarah at growingstrong.org>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 1:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] learning independent living
>>>
>>>
>>>> Now here is a question... If these centers are supposed to be  so great,
>>>> why are they sending letters about how people are "incapable of
>>>> learning?"
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me this indicates that the centers need to do something
>>>> different--or else acknowledge that everyone's "independence" is not the
>>>> same thing! This is another reason why I have no interest in
>>>> one-size-fits-all practices. Obviously it doesn't really fit all!
>>>>
>>>> Sarah J. Blake
>>>> Personal email: sjblake at growingstrong.org
>>>> http://www.growingstrong.org
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>> Christina
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Christina