[nabs-l] learning independent living

Tue May 26 15:11:16 UTC 2009

Christina,
The cleveland sight center is in Cleveland OH.
Go to www.clevelandsightcenter.org for info and you can call them if you 
have questions.

Ashley

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christina Mitchell" <cnaylor073 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] learning independent living

> This is in New Jersey.  It's the New Jersey Foundation for the blind
> in Denville.  Where is the Cleveland center?
>
> On 5/25/09, Ashley  Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Christina,
>> That's unfortunate the center graduated you too fast; you're probably not
>> alone in being frustrated.
>> Wich state is this?  In our state the state run rehab center in richmond 
>> Va
>> tries to meet client needs all at once by offering  different classes,
>> changing schedules as you master skills and no longer need the class, 
>> doing
>> evaluations periodically and more.
>> I never got the impression they push students out before they're ready. 
>> If
>> a client needs to come back they are allowed to if they can justify they
>> really need it and have specific goals.  There is a limited space at the
>> center so they rather you not come back but you can if needed.
>>
>> If you want to go back you have a right to as part of informed choice for
>> your rehab/vocational goals.
>> Why would you be too old?  Doesn't make sense to me.  Our center takes
>> clients of all ages from 18 and over.
>> I hope it works out.
>> I agree you should be allowed to go back to the center.  Also them 
>> telling
>> you just to settle for
>> an instructor coming to your home to show you more isn't acceptable.
>> I tried that.  The rehab teachers could not come enough to meet my needs 
>> due
>> to a large client caseload.
>>
>> Consider outside centers
>> such as Cleveland sight center or nfb centers.  Cleveland sight center 
>> has
>> apartment style living and seems to individualize their program.
>> I've met people who went there and they say it was good.
>>
>> Ashley
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Christina Mitchell" <cnaylor073 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 8:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] learning independent living
>>
>>
>>>I never got a letter saying I was incapable, however I did go to a
>>> center where they would graduate you too fast.  What I mean is say if
>>> you still need additional help on cooking for instance, they would
>>> assume you're ready to graduate the program when you're not ready to
>>> graduate.  They told me that if I needed additional help, I could get
>>> an instructor to come to my house and show me things but I've recently
>>> had a problem with an A d l instructor whom I wish not to mention any
>>> names, and have wanted to go back to the centers but they say I'm too
>>> old and have graduated.  I feel they're just doing this to cut back on
>>> the number of students they get a year, throw out the old ones and
>>> welcome in the new ones.  I don't feel this is right.  If a student
>>> feels he or she needs additional help with A D L, they should be
>>> always welcome to come back.
>>>
>>> On 5/25/09, Ashley  Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Sara,
>>>> There are some bad centers out there.  These individuals must have
>>>> encountered that.
>>>> Most centers will meet the person where they're at.  The student will 
>>>> be
>>>> pushed but can learn at their pace.
>>>> Those centers sending out such nasty letters stating the individual is
>>>> incapable of learning are opening themselves to lawsuits.
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sarah J. Blake" <sarah at growingstrong.org>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 1:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] learning independent living
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Now here is a question... If these centers are supposed to be  so 
>>>>> great,
>>>>> why are they sending letters about how people are "incapable of
>>>>> learning?"
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to me this indicates that the centers need to do something
>>>>> different--or else acknowledge that everyone's "independence" is not 
>>>>> the
>>>>> same thing! This is another reason why I have no interest in
>>>>> one-size-fits-all practices. Obviously it doesn't really fit all!
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah J. Blake
>>>>> Personal email: sjblake at growingstrong.org
>>>>> http://www.growingstrong.org
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