[nabs-l] Reading and writing Spanish

Thu Sep 24 03:40:57 UTC 2009

Hello All.
As far as the braillenote goes, once you get your language pack, you
will get unicode for accented spanish characters. The wonderful thing
about the language pack is that it has a great manual. However, if you
are on a qt, you can access your accented character by pressing
function with x, then, once you have found it, you can assign a short
cut to it, by pressing function with a I think. You can press help at
that point and it'll give you the exact command. I speak several
languages, and the braillenote is a great way of writing a language in
braille. It at least gets you familiarized with the basic braille code
of that language for future reference. Good luck, and Spanish is
easy!!
And yes, there are contractions in every language, we just don't know
them. And a lot of latin american countries at least, do not teach
every blind child braille. Most of them are illiterate, but that's a
discussion for another day.
Yours,
Mary

On 9/23/09, Serena <serenacucco at verizon.net> wrote:
> Yes, I meant American Spanish Braille.  Thanks for the education about
> Braille in Spanish-speaking countries and Portugal.
>
> Serena
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes" <iamantonio at cox.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reading and writing Spanish
>
>
>> Serena,
>>
>> You say there are no contractions in Spanish braille.
>>
>> I don't think we know that for sure. It would be more accurate to say that
>>
>> there are no contractions in American Spanish braille.
>>
>> I bet that if you go to Mexico, and Spain, and south-american countries,
>> they will use contractions in their braille.
>>
>> I am Brazilian, and I know with as certainty as I have about being alive
>> that there absolutely is a contracted portuguese braille. There is just no
>>
>> reason for Americans studying portuguese to make a practice of learning it
>>
>> when they learn portuguese.
>>
>> They will need contacts in Brazil or portugal to guide them through how to
>>
>> write abbreviated Portuguese braille.
>>
>> I don't hold you to the fire on this one, but way too many times I heard
>> people say that English is the only language with abbreviated braille.
>> this is a real narrow view of braille in the world today.
>>
>> Antonio Guimaraes
>>
>> If an infinite number of rednecks riding in an infinite number of pickup
>> trucks fire an infinite number of shotgun rounds at an infinite number of
>> highway signs, they will eventually produce all the world's great literary
>>
>> works in Braille.
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reading and writing Spanish
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jason
>>>
>>> Your Braille teacher says the Spanish program on the Braillenote is hard
>>> to use--that's a bunch of BS!  Once you create a file, all you do is
>>> press enter and the letter "l" together to switch to Spanish.  Just use
>>> the signs you hopefully already know for the accents and the "en" sign
>>> for questionmark and dot 3 for apostrophe.  Remember, there are no
>>> contractions in Spanish Braille.
>>>
>>> Serena
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Polansky" <jaedpo96 at aol.com>
>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reading and writing Spanish
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi my name is Jason and I am taking spanish. I use a braille note, and
>>>> my vision teacher is ordering me the spanish program. She says that it
>>>> is hard to use. I think the school system might order me a laptop. Maybe
>>>>
>>>> if you give me the commands too, then I can use the laptop in spanish
>>>> class. My spanish teacher told me to avoid the accent marks until I get
>>>> the spanish program on my braille note.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Harry Hogue <harryhogue at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 3:55 am
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reading and writing Spanish
>>>>
>>>> Hi Lindsay,
>>>>
>>>> You can change your keyboard layout to write in Spanish, at least in
>>>> Windows.  Let me know if you're interested in knowing how to do this and
>>>>
>>>> I can tell you how.  It allows you to press the apostrophe followed by
>>>> the letter you want accented, and shift with some other symbols--the
>>>> inverted question mark, exclamation point, etc.  I can give you the key
>>>> commands, bu the best thing to do, I've found, is once you ahve it
>>>> changed over, just turn JAWS or Voiceover to read characters and play
>>>> around with the different symbols.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I use a Focus 40 with JAWS, so I don't know if my display functions
>>>> different as far as table layout, but I switch mine to ESP 438 or
>>>> something like that.  It's the only "esp" in there.  You can, of course,
>>>>
>>>> always use another table, but those are the traditional symbols for what
>>>>
>>>> I guess is considered official Spanish Braille.  Please odn't hesitate
>>>> to write me off list if you have any other questions or need help with
>>>> Spanish or whatever.  It's a great language.
>>>>
>>>> Harry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Thu, 9/17/09, Lindsay Yazzolino <lindsay3.14 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Lindsay Yazzolino <lindsay3.14 at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reading and writing Spanish
>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 12:51 AM
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I am taking a Spanish course and am wondering if any of you
>>>>> could tell
>>>>> me how I can set my Braille display to show Spanish symbols
>>>>> correctly.
>>>>> I am using a BrailleConnect with a Mac, and would love to
>>>>> be able to
>>>>> read Spanish accented characters with VoiceOver, but would
>>>>> also
>>>>> greatly appreciate if someone could show me how to do this
>>>>> with JAWS
>>>>> as well. Also, is there a way to quickly input Spanish
>>>>> symbols,
>>>>> perhaps using unicode? Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lindsay
>>>>>
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