[nabs-l] Reading and writing Spanish

Wed Sep 23 22:21:48 UTC 2009

Yes, I meant American Spanish Braille.  Thanks for the education about 
Braille in Spanish-speaking countries and Portugal.

Serena

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes" <iamantonio at cox.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reading and writing Spanish

> Serena,
>
> You say there are no contractions in Spanish braille.
>
> I don't think we know that for sure. It would be more accurate to say that 
> there are no contractions in American Spanish braille.
>
> I bet that if you go to Mexico, and Spain, and south-american countries, 
> they will use contractions in their braille.
>
> I am Brazilian, and I know with as certainty as I have about being alive 
> that there absolutely is a contracted portuguese braille. There is just no 
> reason for Americans studying portuguese to make a practice of learning it 
> when they learn portuguese.
>
> They will need contacts in Brazil or portugal to guide them through how to 
> write abbreviated Portuguese braille.
>
> I don't hold you to the fire on this one, but way too many times I heard 
> people say that English is the only language with abbreviated braille. 
> this is a real narrow view of braille in the world today.
>
> Antonio Guimaraes
>
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> works in Braille.
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Serena" <serenacucco at verizon.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 7:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reading and writing Spanish
>
>
>> Hi Jason
>>
>> Your Braille teacher says the Spanish program on the Braillenote is hard 
>> to use--that's a bunch of BS!  Once you create a file, all you do is 
>> press enter and the letter "l" together to switch to Spanish.  Just use 
>> the signs you hopefully already know for the accents and the "en" sign 
>> for questionmark and dot 3 for apostrophe.  Remember, there are no 
>> contractions in Spanish Braille.
>>
>> Serena
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Polansky" <jaedpo96 at aol.com>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 6:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reading and writing Spanish
>>
>>
>>> Hi my name is Jason and I am taking spanish. I use a braille note, and 
>>> my vision teacher is ordering me the spanish program. She says that it 
>>> is hard to use. I think the school system might order me a laptop. Maybe 
>>> if you give me the commands too, then I can use the laptop in spanish 
>>> class. My spanish teacher told me to avoid the accent marks until I get 
>>> the spanish program on my braille note.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Harry Hogue <harryhogue at yahoo.com>
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 3:55 am
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Reading and writing Spanish
>>>
>>> Hi Lindsay,
>>>
>>> You can change your keyboard layout to write in Spanish, at least in 
>>> Windows.  Let me know if you're interested in knowing how to do this and 
>>> I can tell you how.  It allows you to press the apostrophe followed by 
>>> the letter you want accented, and shift with some other symbols--the 
>>> inverted question mark, exclamation point, etc.  I can give you the key 
>>> commands, bu the best thing to do, I've found, is once you ahve it 
>>> changed over, just turn JAWS or Voiceover to read characters and play 
>>> around with the different symbols.
>>>
>>>
>>> I use a Focus 40 with JAWS, so I don't know if my display functions 
>>> different as far as table layout, but I switch mine to ESP 438 or 
>>> something like that.  It's the only "esp" in there.  You can, of course, 
>>> always use another table, but those are the traditional symbols for what 
>>> I guess is considered official Spanish Braille.  Please odn't hesitate 
>>> to write me off list if you have any other questions or need help with 
>>> Spanish or whatever.  It's a great language.
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 9/17/09, Lindsay Yazzolino <lindsay3.14 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Lindsay Yazzolino <lindsay3.14 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Reading and writing Spanish
>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 12:51 AM
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I am taking a Spanish course and am wondering if any of you
>>>> could tell
>>>> me how I can set my Braille display to show Spanish symbols
>>>> correctly.
>>>> I am using a BrailleConnect with a Mac, and would love to
>>>> be able to
>>>> read Spanish accented characters with VoiceOver, but would
>>>> also
>>>> greatly appreciate if someone could show me how to do this
>>>> with JAWS
>>>> as well. Also, is there a way to quickly input Spanish
>>>> symbols,
>>>> perhaps using unicode? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Lindsay
>>>>
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