[nabs-l] Social Stuff

Sun Sep 27 17:34:22 UTC 2009

okay well if thats how you are meaning. I feel you should politely tell the 
person that action and behavior is not appropriate in a public setting to 
someone you are not familiar with. It sounds to be an immaturity 
behavior...how old is this person?

There should be an understanding since we are a minority meaning there is 
not really that many as far as demographics. I liked when a person on here 
said they actually help teach people how to act towards the disabled. It 
sounds to me like this person would be this way towards sighted friends as 
well acting in a joking manner. Maybe i am wrong but do you not act 
differently around your friends than the general public? With us being blind 
we are more cautious in our behaviors in public because we have to be. We 
cannot read peoples facial expressions or gestures to have a better 
understanding of what they are trying to say or the point they are trying to 
get across.

If you are going to fight me on what i meant on being cautious thats the 
whole conversation on having facial expressions being blind and i have the 
answer to that as well. It doesnt matter if you can see or not as an infant 
your parents teach you through audible facial expressions. That is kind of 
what i meant on certain words you cannot say without making  the appropriate 
facial expression. Meaning you cannot say Grr with a smile on your face, yes 
without a smile...smile without a smile. Your parents  teach you  social 
language as an infant giving you a social smile and appropriate behavior in 
public.

We are people too and you cannot single those who are ignorant and sighted 
any differently than you want them to treat you. Thats the golden rule and 
just understand respectably to the ignorance rather than be offended unless 
this action is repeated by the same person over and over after being 
explained of it's offensiveness.

        -Teal
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Social Stuff

> NABSters:
>
> I try to be excessively careful when joking like that in case my friends 
> actually think that's how they should interact with another blind person 
> they might meet. After all, that's how this thread got started. One blind 
> guy joked with a sighted friend that he could identify her by smell since 
> her perfume is strong and unusual. As a result, she got it in her head 
> that all blind people did this and thus stuck her wrist in front of my 
> nose at first meeting with the invitation to become familiar with her 
> scent.
>
> Respectfully,
> Jedi
>
>
> Original message:
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>> Teal,
>> Once again I find myself laughing at a comment in this thread because
>> I've used that "I see with my hands" line when joking with someone. The
>> thing is, you've gotta be careful who you say that too. Not because you
>> might offend someone, I'm careful enough to avoid that. But because I've
>> had them counter with, "That sounds like fun. Go ahead." They were
>> joking of course. I think. But what do you say in response to something
>> like that? LOL I'm not really expecting an answer to that by the way. I
>> told you all about it so you could get some of the amusement I
>> experienced remembering it.
>> - --
>> Those of you who think they know everything are very annoying to those
>> of us who actually do.
>> Joseph C. Lininger, <jbahm at pcdesk.net>
>> Teal Bloodworth wrote:
>>> just be sturn almost stubborn in asking questions and dont try to fit in
>>> just be yourself. college is much easier but its not. I was friends with
>>> everybody that i went to highschool with before my car accident that led
>>> to my vision loss and it was awkward because they didnt know how to act.
>>> I thought college would be easier and it is but it isnt. Harder course
>>> work but easier social interaction because with the diversity in my
>>> school, it was a very openminded and nonjudge mental and no one that i
>>> went to highschool went to this college which was weird because it was
>>> 45 minutes away from my highschool.
>
>>>> From a personal view there is not much difference in going with those 
>>>> who
>>> are sighted or those who are not. Everyone will have different
>>> personalities that you will either like or not like. In a laughing
>>> matter i had a good pick up line..."i cant see so i have to see with my
>>> hands." I would never use that but i would tell people that if they were
>>> friends to kid with them.
>
>>> Do you have similar feelings in your environment?
>
>>>            -Teal
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto Arreola"
>>> <alberto.2500 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Social Stuff
>
>
>>>> That goes for me.  I was the only blind student in my hight school,
>>>> and I'm
>>>> now the only blind student at the university I go to.
>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Teal Bloodworth
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:40 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Social Stuff
>
>>>> that must be nice for all of you. in highschool i was the first and 
>>>> only
>>>> totally blind person, at my community college same and at the four year
>>>> university same. I guess i dont really have any blind friends where i
>>>> live
>>>> because there is no one my age.
>
>>>>            -Teal
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jedi" <loneblindjedi at samobile.net>
>>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:10 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Social Stuff
>
>
>>>>> Mark,
>
>>>>> I also find that many of my friends are blind. However, many of my 
>>>>> blind
>>>>> friends are struggling with their blindness more than I seem to be. 
>>>>> That
>>>>> is to say that some of them deny their blindness while others live the
>>>>> stereotypes. Some of my best friends are sighted.
>
>>>>> I haven't noticed a remarkable difference between how my sighted 
>>>>> friends
>>>>> treat me versus how my blind friends treat me. I think what makes the
>>>>> difference is philosophical understanding of blindness, not visual
>>>>> acuity.
>
>>>>> Respectfully Submitted
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Reading this thread makes me think; most of my closest friends are 
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> blind. This is not to say that I don't have sighted friends, I have
>>>>>> lots
>>>>>> of friends that are sighted. I go to a mainstream school and 
>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>> fully participate in everything that my sighted friends do. It just
>>>>>> seems
>
>>>>>> like my sighted colleagues still treat me differently than they would
>>>>>> treat another sighted classmate. It's nothing that I can put my 
>>>>>> finger
>>>>>> on, just an impression I get. Do any of you also find this to be 
>>>>>> true?
>
>
>
>>>>>> Also do you find that it is easier to make friends with blind people
>>>>>> than
>
>>>>>> sighted people? I think it is, because you don't have to deal with 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> blindness thing. I mean you don't have to teach them that just 
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> your eyes don't work it doesn't make you drastically different than
>>>>>> anyone else.
>
>
>
>>>>>> I would appreciate your thoughts,
>
>
>
>>>>>> Mark
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