[nabs-l] Scholarships
Brian Wooten
mbrianwooten at gmail.com
Wed Apr 21 21:15:51 UTC 2010
I read on the NFB Home page thatthe recipients are notified by phone
in the beginning of June. Good luck to you
Best Regards,
Brian Wooten
Nashville Tn
On 4/21/10, Jennifer Applegate <jlastar at comcast.net> wrote:
> Does anyone know when and how nfb national scholarship winners are notified?
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>> 1. Conference Call tomorrow, April 20, 2010, at 8:00 PM EST
>> (Diggs, Parnell)
>> 2. New List for Blind Conservatives (RyanO)
>> 3. Re: Not Just Your Average Cane (T. Joseph Carter)
>> 4. Help-Philosophy Question (Candice Chapman)
>> 5. Re: Help-Philosophy Question (Kerri Kosten)
>> 6. Re: Help-Philosophy Question (Anjelina)
>> 7. Re: Help-Philosophy Question (Briley Pollard)
>> 8. Re: Bulletin board software (Joseph C. Lininger)
>> 9. Re: Help-Philosophy Question (Darian Smith)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:38:23 -0500
>> From: "Diggs, Parnell" <PDiggs at nfb.org> (by way of David Andrews
>> <dandrews at visi.com>)
>> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Conference Call tomorrow, April 20, 2010, at 8:00 PM
>> EST
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>> Dear Colleagues:
>>
>> Some of my fellow Federationists have asked me to conduct a
>> fundraising seminar for those participating in the 2010 Race for
>> Independence.
>>
>> The Dallas Convention is approaching fast, and we need to kick it
>> into high gear for the final push to generate proceeds for NFB
>> programs at the national, state, and local levels.
>>
>> If you have signed-up for the Race for Independence, or if you plan
>> to do so, please call into (800) 910-2399 and use code 573791
>> tomorrow night, Tuesday, April 20, at 8:00 p.m. (eastern).
>>
>> The call will last no longer than thirty minutes. During this brief
>> call, you will be able to hear from some of those who have already
>> met their fundraising goals for 2010.
>>
>> Find out how they did it. There is ample time to raise $250 by July
>> 31, but we need to start now. I look forward to your participation
>> in this important call, and I thank you for the work you are doing.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Parnell Diggs, Chairman
>> National Federation of the Blind Imagination Fund
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:32:10 -0500
>> From: "RyanO" <ryano218 at comcast.net> (by way of David Andrews
>> <dandrews at visi.com>)
>> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nabs-l] New List for Blind Conservatives
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>> I have been asked to circulate the following:
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In October, 2008, a fellow Federationist and I were asked to reach
>> out to the McCain campaign in hopes of persuading a representative to
>> come speak at our monthly Denver chapter meeting on the topic of
>> disability issues. We already had a rep from the Obama campaign in
>> the person of one of our members, who was an official Obama
>> surrogate. After several days of phone tag, I was informed that the
>> McCain camp would not be sending a representative to speak to us. The
>> reason I was given was because, "Obama was just too far ahead on
>> disability issues."
>>
>> I and my fellow conservative blind friends were angry and hurt. We
>> tried to give both sides equal time and felt we'd been told that we
>> didn't matter. To that end, I felt I had two options. The first was
>> to quit being a conservative and jump ship over to the other side.
>> The second option was to get more actively involved and to make our
>> voices heard on all levels. Anyone who knows me knows that option one
>> was not an option.
>>
>> To that end, I have created a mailing list called, Brush Fires. It is
>> primarily for blind conservatives so that we may form a network of
>> communication and information. Let me stress that everyone is welcome
>> on this list, no matter what their political stripe may be. In the
>> spirit of the Federation, I believe that healthy debate and
>> discussion fosters a more vibrant society for all of its members.
>>
>> Right now, the list is announce only. If we get big enough, I plan to
>> turn it into a discussion mailing list. For more information, please
>> Email me at
>> ryano218 at comcast.net
>>
>> Thank you for your time and attention.
>>
>>
>> RyanO
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:28:52 -0700
>> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Not Just Your Average Cane
>> Message-ID: <20100420022851.GI90257 at yumi.bluecherry.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Catching up on piles of email, I saw this thread. I can already see
>> Joe Orozco wearing a giant talking watch around his neck.
>>
>> In all seriousness (or at least some seriousness), aside from the
>> specific legal status afforded to a cane that is specifically white
>> in many jurisdictions, I see no reason why one couldn't have one or
>> more canes that reflect your personality. In my case, I can picture
>> one with a more ivory gloss finish, a leather grip, and polished
>> steel cap with a satin finish. It would be exactly the sort of cane
>> I would take to more upscale events and the like.
>>
>> That said, finding a good way to treat the chips and scratches my
>> general every day working cane is subjected to would be a good start.
>> I've seen a number of rigid NFB canes that have gotten so much use
>> that the bottom foot or so are graphite black because the white
>> coating has completely chipped away. Not exactly what I want when I
>> want to look my best!
>>
>> And yes, the big talking watch for Joe to wear around his neck should
>> have that [CENSORED] rooster alarm.
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 08:33:56PM -0400, Joe Orozco wrote:
>>>Hi Mark,
>>>
>>>Having started the thread, I feel compelled to respond to your thoughtful
>>>post. It goes without say that people's opinions here do not reflect any
>>>official NFB positions, and I honestly doubt the NFB would genuinely care
>>>if
>>>all its members suddenly decided to sport a wide range of colorfully
>>>decorated canes. I think Dr. Maurer would probably find the concept
>>>amusing, and doesn't Whozit sport a black cane in our logo? That fellow
>>>was
>>>far ahead of the curve.
>>>
>>>For my own part, I'm headed to Michael's sometime soon to embark upon a
>>>project to transform my own cane into the walking wonder I know it can be.
>>>I think that in doing so I would do well to use a measure of practical
>>>sense. Security checkpoints at airports and federal buildings would
>>>probably not look kindly on a cane that is different from what is
>>>popularly
>>>accepted. We can't expect the world to automatically get that blind
>>>people
>>>have their own sense of pizzazz, and by the same token, we can't expect
>>>people to pick up on the fact we're blind at night if using something as
>>>obscure as a black cane, even though I agree with the previous subscriber
>>>that motorists should respect pedestrians with or without this new breed
>>>of
>>>eye candy.
>>>
>>>I'm glad people pointed out the jurisdictions that specifically call for
>>>the
>>>cane to be white. In asking my question, sarcasm notwithstanding, I was
>>>not
>>>really setting out to violate laws that are meant to preserve my safety,
>>>but
>>>I do not want these laws to tuck me away into a label that can be every
>>>bit
>>>as condescending as terms like "handicapped." If senior citizens can
>>>sport
>>>all manner of creatively designed walking canes, by golly, I want my own
>>>mode of transportation to broadcast my own sense of humor. It's not as if
>>>
>>>I
>>>can smack a bumper sticker on my German shepherd's butt and call it good,
>>>although, can you imagine the wide range of clever slogans one could
>>>produce
>>>with that kind of strategic angle?
>>>
>>>All of this having been said, I spent nearly a year working on behalf of
>>>victims of human trafficking. I learned all about the negative
>>>connotations
>>>associated with words like "pimping," and for using that term to catch
>>>your
>>>attention, I am truly sorry.
>>>
>>>In summation, I think the responses on both lists to which the question
>>>went
>>>out has been mostly positive. It's no scientific survey, but I think it
>>>is
>>>at least slightly indicative of the membership's willingness to explore
>>>the
>>>idea or at least humor my nonsense. People who have given more
>>>straight-laced responses are no doubt secretly glad they're not the only
>>>ones who thought of this, because original this idea is most certainly
>>>not.
>>>Let's leave out the references to accessible currency and other
>>>controversial topics out of it this time around. We debate those serious
>>>issues all the time and should enjoy the all too infrequent light banter.
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>
>>>Joe Orozco and the Soon to Be Improved Sir Tap-A-Lot
>>>
>>>What, as if you haven't ever thought of giving your cane a name???
>>>
>>>"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
>>>some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>[mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark BurningHawk
>>>Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 5:51 PM
>>>To: NFBnet Blind Law Mailing List
>>>Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Pimp My Cane
>>>
>>>I'm following this thread, and I know a large percentage of the folks
>>>here are NFB members; I personally a not, nor any organization, for
>>>that matter. I find a bit of hypocrisy in this discussion: First the
>>>NFB rails against things like audible cross walk signals and so on,
>>>claiming that the blind don't need them, that it's not what the blind
>>>"want," whatever. Same with identifiable currency. Now, however, I
>>>hear a bunch of the same people saying, in effect, "I want to carry a
>>>symbol of blindness! I want to proclaim my blindness to everyone so
>>>that they can alter their behaviors appropriately in recognition of
>>>the fact that I'm blind!" I should think the true spirit of the NFB
>>>might be to use a black cane and give no indication whatsoever of
>>>blindness, except on a purely voluntary basis. I just don't
>>>understand this.
>>>
>>>Mark BurningHawk
>>>Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
>>>Home: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>>Namaste!
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:34:01 -0500
>> From: Candice Chapman <warren.mercy at hotmail.com>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question
>> Message-ID: <COL118-W46E5CA9A9B6D245CD0C2E49C0A0 at phx.gbl>
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>>
>>
>> Dear NABS members,
>>
>> I recentally was in a situation where my NFB philosophy was put to the
>> test. I was travelling with a friend who is totally blind by airplane and
>> we got into a confrontational situation with the flight attendant. She
>> insisted upon taking my friend's straight cane, but didn't have a problem
>> with mine since it was teloscopic. Perhaps she assumed that storing the
>> straight cane would be a hazard. My friend proceeded to have a loud,
>> obnoxious verbal confrontation, that resulted in hold up of traffic and
>> embarrassment on my part. Eventually the conflict, due to time constraint,
>>
>> my friend was finally mollified and allowed to keep her cane. However I
>> can't help but wonder if there was a more diplomatic way to handle the
>> situation. It brings to mind an article by Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, perhaps
>> you guys know it, it's in The Master, The Mission, The Movement. The
>> article is titled, "Don't Throw the Nickel."
>>
>> How do you think the confrontation could have been handled more
>> delicately? In the above article Dr.Jernigan referenced many situations in
>>
>> which you could choose your battle. Perhaps it's true that you can make a
>> situation worse by escalating a said situation with a sighted person,
>> rather than taking the high road. What are your thoughts on the art of
>> negotiationg NFB philosophy? What might you suggest as potential
>> alternatives to the above confrontation? I would like to hear all of your
>> thoughts on the importance of our philosophy in the lives of blind people.
>>
>> Best,
>> Candice Chapman
>>
>> P.S. The Article is attached for your convience.
>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:56:53 -0400
>> From: Kerri Kosten <kerrik2006 at gmail.com>
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Hi Candice:
>>
>> This is very interesting.
>>
>> I definitely think it is true to pick your battles. I was flying back
>> from Florida with my parents. In scrambling to find a flight, our
>> seats were in separate rows.
>> I did not mind this at all, as I like to be independent and after all
>> my parents were still on the same plane so I did not mind at all.
>> However, when we got on the plane and the flight attendant found out
>> our seats were separate and I was blind, she insisted on rearranging
>> the two seats so my mother and I could sit together.
>> At first, I was going to protest but decided against it because after
>> all it just meant my mother would be sitting together and apparently
>> the person who was in the seat beside my mother willingly moved. I
>> could have and maybe should have spoken up on the issue more but it
>> seemed minor and nobody seemed to be bothered by it so I decided that
>> battle wasn't one worth fighting.
>>
>> However, I do not agree with a person trying to take my cane no matter
>> the situation. I would object to this and would not let it happen, but
>> I would try as hard as I could to state my points and objections as
>> politely as possible and try very hard not to cause a huge sceen.
>>
>> Just my opinion.
>>
>> Kerri
>>
>> On 4/19/10, Candice Chapman <warren.mercy at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear NABS members,
>>>
>>> I recentally was in a situation where my NFB philosophy was put to the
>>> test.
>>> I was travelling with a friend who is totally blind by airplane and we
>>> got
>>> into a confrontational situation with the flight attendant. She insisted
>>> upon taking my friend's straight cane, but didn't have a problem with
>>> mine
>>> since it was teloscopic. Perhaps she assumed that storing the straight
>>> cane
>>> would be a hazard. My friend proceeded to have a loud, obnoxious verbal
>>> confrontation, that resulted in hold up of traffic and embarrassment on
>>> my
>>> part. Eventually the conflict, due to time constraint, my friend was
>>> finally
>>> mollified and allowed to keep her cane. However I can't help but wonder
>>> if
>>> there was a more diplomatic way to handle the situation. It brings to
>>> mind
>>> an article by Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, perhaps you guys know it, it's in The
>>> Master, The Mission, The Movement. The article is titled, "Don't Throw
>>> the
>>> Nickel."
>>>
>>> How do you think the confrontation could have been handled more
>>> delicately?
>>> In the above article Dr.Jernigan referenced many situations in which you
>>> could choose your battle. Perhaps it's true that you can make a situation
>>> worse by escalating a said situation with a sighted person, rather than
>>> taking the high road. What are your thoughts on the art of negotiationg
>>> NFB
>>> philosophy? What might you suggest as potential alternatives to the above
>>> confrontation? I would like to hear all of your thoughts on the
>>> importance
>>> of our philosophy in the lives of blind people.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Candice Chapman
>>>
>>> P.S. The Article is attached for your convience.
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:57:01 -0400
>> From: "Anjelina" <anjelinac26 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question
>> Message-ID: <F78C6DEB23CB4DE9892EEEC19FA7CED0 at D9P3ZND1>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Candice: what a great thought provoking article and question.
>> In my opinion, being confrontational isn't always productive. I've dealt
>> with overly-helpful flight attendants' a few times who wanted to stow my
>> cane somewhere else rather than let me put it along the window.
>> Once I did allow my cane to be placed in a nearby closet and had no
>> problem
>> having it returned if I needed to use it, but I generally try to calmly
>> explain that my cane will not be a bother to the other passengers and the
>> importance of having it close by.
>> I look forward to reading other responses.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Candice Chapman" <warren.mercy at hotmail.com>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:34 PM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear NABS members,
>>
>> I recentally was in a situation where my NFB philosophy was put to the
>> test.
>> I was travelling with a friend who is totally blind by airplane and we got
>> into a confrontational situation with the flight attendant. She insisted
>> upon taking my friend's straight cane, but didn't have a problem with mine
>> since it was teloscopic. Perhaps she assumed that storing the straight
>> cane
>> would be a hazard. My friend proceeded to have a loud, obnoxious verbal
>> confrontation, that resulted in hold up of traffic and embarrassment on my
>> part. Eventually the conflict, due to time constraint, my friend was
>> finally
>> mollified and allowed to keep her cane. However I can't help but wonder if
>> there was a more diplomatic way to handle the situation. It brings to mind
>> an article by Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, perhaps you guys know it, it's in The
>> Master, The Mission, The Movement. The article is titled, "Don't Throw the
>> Nickel."
>>
>> How do you think the confrontation could have been handled more
>> delicately?
>> In the above article Dr.Jernigan referenced many situations in which you
>> could choose your battle. Perhaps it's true that you can make a situation
>> worse by escalating a said situation with a sighted person, rather than
>> taking the high road. What are your thoughts on the art of negotiationg
>> NFB
>> philosophy? What might you suggest as potential alternatives to the above
>> confrontation? I would like to hear all of your thoughts on the importance
>> of our philosophy in the lives of blind people.
>>
>> Best,
>> Candice Chapman
>>
>> P.S. The Article is attached for your convience.
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox.
>> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:32:04 -0500
>> From: Briley Pollard <brileyp at gmail.com>
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question
>> Message-ID: <9C19548A-69B3-465F-815E-142EC76D70C3 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I wasn't there, so I can't speak to how your friend handled the situation.
>>
>> The fact of the matter is though that allowing airline personel to take
>> our mobility aids awe frm us is, A, illegal, and B, degrading. It also
>> sets a bad precedent for blind people that may be traveling with them in
>> the future. That said, it is of course better to use a calm professional
>> tone when dealing with this kind of situation. There is a quiet way to
>> insist that our rights as blind people be respected. Also explaining the
>> why's of a certain ideal often help. This wasn't a situation where your
>> friend should've just "let it go" for the sake of peace, but perhaps she
>> could've handled it in a calmer way.
>>
>> The Throw the Nickel principal applies more to accepting help I think than
>>
>> having our rights ignored. In that situation, it was better to accept the
>> kindness of a stranger than to make a fuss. This has to do with the
>> airplane rights of a lot of people, and while we should always be calm and
>>
>> professional, but sometimes confrontation is required to bring about
>> change.
>>
>> Just my 10 cents.
>>
>> BrileyOn Apr 19, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Candice Chapman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear NABS members,
>>>
>>> I recentally was in a situation where my NFB philosophy was put to the
>>> test. I was travelling with a friend who is totally blind by airplane and
>>>
>>> we got into a confrontational situation with the flight attendant. She
>>> insisted upon taking my friend's straight cane, but didn't have a problem
>>>
>>> with mine since it was teloscopic. Perhaps she assumed that storing the
>>> straight cane would be a hazard. My friend proceeded to have a loud,
>>> obnoxious verbal confrontation, that resulted in hold up of traffic and
>>> embarrassment on my part. Eventually the conflict, due to time
>>> constraint, my friend was finally mollified and allowed to keep her cane.
>>>
>>> However I can't help but wonder if there was a more diplomatic way to
>>> handle the situation. It brings to mind an article by Dr. Kenneth
>>> Jernigan, perhaps you guys know it, it's in The Master, The Mission, The
>>> Movement. The article is titled, "Don't Throw the Nickel."
>>>
>>> How do you think the confrontation could have been handled more
>>> delicately? In the above article Dr.Jernigan referenced many situations
>>> in which you could choose your battle. Perhaps it's true that you can
>>> make a situation worse by escalating a said situation with a sighted
>>> person, rather than taking the high road. What are your thoughts on the
>>> art of negotiationg NFB philosophy? What might you suggest as potential
>>> alternatives to the above confrontation? I would like to hear all of your
>>>
>>> thoughts on the importance of our philosophy in the lives of blind
>>> people.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Candice Chapman
>>>
>>> P.S. The Article is attached for your convience.
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your
>>> inbox.
>>> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3<Don't
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:53:43 -0600
>> From: "Joseph C. Lininger" <jbahm at pcdesk.net>
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Bulletin board software
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>> There are several solutions available actually. What you should do
>> precisely depends on your exact needs. If you could answer a couple
>> questions I could probably recommend something.
>>
>> 1. Are you looking for a hosted solution or do you have control over the
>> web server where your site is located?
>>
>> 2. What functions are you looking for precisely? Are you just looking
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:32:34 -0700
>> From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Help-Philosophy Question
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>>
>> Hello all,
>> My feeling on the matter is that we can generally do better by
>> handeling things in a less confrentational manner when possible.
>> While this is easier said than done, I think it's worth taking a
>> second (if possible depending on the situation) and try to look at
>> what you need or would like to get out of the situation you are in.
>> I find it difficult to balance the short-term solution and
>> long-term results of that dicision made (example:if someone takes
>> one's cane on an airplane or even in a differennt situation such as
>> somebody insisting in helping you across the street).
>> Sometimes i have to ask myself, when do I make a dicision for the
>> good of other blind people, or for my own good? Should I take my
>> long cane because it somehow better models my comfort in blindness
>> to other people? or should I take a telescoping cane because it's
>> easier to carry and it still conforms to what is an NFB cane? Or,
>> do I use a folding cane because I'm feeling like it's less likely to
>> get broken of someone steps on it while traveling? The question
>> that I think is worth asking is- is there a "model positive image of
>> blindness"? In much the same way that people tend to look for the
>> ideal image of gender or ethnicity, is there such an Ideal for the
>> blind?
>> if so, is that what we all must conform to? or is there a such a
>> thing as conformity in the blind community and in this case, the
>> Federation community/family?
>> Best,
>> Darian
>>
>>
>> On 4/20/10, Briley Pollard <brileyp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Good morning,
>>>
>>> I wasn't there, so I can't speak to how your friend handled the
>>> situation.
>>> The fact of the matter is though that allowing airline personel to take
>>> our
>>> mobility aids awe frm us is, A, illegal, and B, degrading. It also sets a
>>> bad precedent for blind people that may be traveling with them in the
>>> future. That said, it is of course better to use a calm professional tone
>>> when dealing with this kind of situation. There is a quiet way to insist
>>> that our rights as blind people be respected. Also explaining the why's
>>> of a
>>> certain ideal often help. This wasn't a situation where your friend
>>> should've just "let it go" for the sake of peace, but perhaps she
>>> could've
>>> handled it in a calmer way.
>>>
>>> The Throw the Nickel principal applies more to accepting help I think
>>> than
>>> having our rights ignored. In that situation, it was better to accept the
>>> kindness of a stranger than to make a fuss. This has to do with the
>>> airplane
>>> rights of a lot of people, and while we should always be calm and
>>> professional, but sometimes confrontation is required to bring about
>>> change.
>>>
>>> Just my 10 cents.
>>>
>>> BrileyOn Apr 19, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Candice Chapman wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear NABS members,
>>>>
>>>> I recentally was in a situation where my NFB philosophy was put to the
>>>> test. I was travelling with a friend who is totally blind by airplane
>>>> and
>>>> we got into a confrontational situation with the flight attendant. She
>>>> insisted upon taking my friend's straight cane, but didn't have a
>>>> problem
>>>> with mine since it was teloscopic. Perhaps she assumed that storing the
>>>> straight cane would be a hazard. My friend proceeded to have a loud,
>>>> obnoxious verbal confrontation, that resulted in hold up of traffic and
>>>> embarrassment on my part. Eventually the conflict, due to time
>>>> constraint,
>>>> my friend was finally mollified and allowed to keep her cane. However I
>>>> can't help but wonder if there was a more diplomatic way to handle the
>>>> situation. It brings to mind an article by Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, perhaps
>>>> you guys know it, it's in The Master, The Mission, The Movement. The
>>>> article is titled, "Don't Throw the Nickel."
>>>>
>>>> How do you think the confrontation could have been handled more
>>>> delicately? In the above article Dr.Jernigan referenced many situations
>>>> in
>>>> which you could choose your battle. Perhaps it's true that you can make
>>>> a
>>>> situation worse by escalating a said situation with a sighted person,
>>>> rather than taking the high road. What are your thoughts on the art of
>>>> negotiationg NFB philosophy? What might you suggest as potential
>>>> alternatives to the above confrontation? I would like to hear all of
>>>> your
>>>> thoughts on the importance of our philosophy in the lives of blind
>>>> people.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Candice Chapman
>>>>
>>>> P.S. The Article is attached for your convience.
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