[nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications

H. Field missheather at comcast.net
Tue Aug 10 23:22:18 UTC 2010


Hi Rob,
Do you know why they don't use random questions that people could 
answer by writing an answer in a text box. Such questions require a 
human to think and figure out the answer. For example, a question 
could be, if a man's name was Tom, what would he be called if he came 
last in a race.  Possible answers, Tom, and, last.
Perhaps this approach has been tried and failed. However, if not, it 
seems to be a whole lot simpler than the whole capcha thing.
Just wondering.

Heather don't see
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Blachowicz" <rob_blach at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications


There is no way currently to solve this problem.  You got to remember 
why
they use these in the first place- to make sure your not a computer to
protect their own servers.  As the NFB we can come up with a solution 
though
to solve this problem maybe a braille tag or if you don't have a 
braille
display  some other type of new type of varification.  Point being is, 
we
can only change if we imagine and come up with a new solution to  the
problem like our new car that we imagined.
Rob

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From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications

> Hello again everyone,
>
>    So they're in compliance if someone can neither read the 
> characters or
> hear the audio? There is something called deaf-blindness. Many of 
> our
> members have hearing impairments that are as varied as visual acuity
> limiting their ability to hear as well as see. Again its principles 
> not
> CAPTCHA solving methods that are at issue.
>
> Peter Donahue
> .
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob Blachowicz" <rob_blach at hotmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications
>
>
> I don't mean to sound blunt but they are in compliance even with our 
> own
> standards of NFB policy. Captures are not against our policy as 
> longa s
> they
> have audio.
>
> Thanks Rob Blachowicz
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:17 PM
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications
>
>> Hello again everyone,
>>
>>    This whole business misses the point. We've taken a position 
>> that Web
>> sites should be accessible to all users including the blind. Yet 
>> when
>> money
>> is up for grabs we send our own members to Web sites that include 
>> these
>> very
>> components that pose accessibility issues for us. For the record I 
>> use
>> Web
>> Vism and for the most part have had success. It's not the 
>> availability of
>> CAPTCHA solving services that is at issue but the underlying 
>> principle
>> that
>> we believe that Web sites and other Internet resources should be
>> blind-friendly. If we worked at hard enough we could have raised 
>> the
>> $250,000 ourselves or through other means where we can insure Web
>> accessibility. Were efforts made to work with Pepsi to develop a 
>> special
>> interface that would allow all voters to participate without having 
>> to
>> encounter that CAPTCHA? Sufficed to say we lost 62 votes due to the
>> failure
>> of our organization to provide a non-CAPTCHA way for all to vote 
>> via the
>> Pepsi Web Site.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications
>>
>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> I do believe that as a hearing impaired person, that using such as
>> Webvisum
>> would help with CAPTCHA. That is exactly what Webvisum is, to help 
>> solve
>> the
>> CAPTCHA.
>>
>> Someone previously stated this, it's the same answer for a deaf 
>> blind or
>> hearing impaired person.
>>
>> No more excuses not to vote!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>> On
>> Behalf
>> Of Peter Donahue
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:25 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications
>>
>> Hello Shawn and everyone,
>>
>>    How is someone with a hearing impairment or who is deaf-blind 
>> able to
>> use an audio CAPTCHA? Those things are so garbled that I don't mess 
>> with
>> them. Darrell is right on with this one.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>> .
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Sean Whalen" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications
>>
>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> They have an audio CAPTCHA available. Sometimes it is beneficial to 
>> check
>> things out before complaining about them.
>>
>>
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