[nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications

Tue Aug 10 23:38:29 UTC 2010

That would be a good answer to the problem.

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From: "H. Field" <missheather at comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications

> Hi Rob,
> Do you know why they don't use random questions that people could
> answer by writing an answer in a text box. Such questions require a
> human to think and figure out the answer. For example, a question
> could be, if a man's name was Tom, what would he be called if he came
> last in a race.  Possible answers, Tom, and, last.
> Perhaps this approach has been tried and failed. However, if not, it
> seems to be a whole lot simpler than the whole capcha thing.
> Just wondering.
>
> Heather don't see
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob Blachowicz" <rob_blach at hotmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications
>
>
> There is no way currently to solve this problem.  You got to remember
> why
> they use these in the first place- to make sure your not a computer to
> protect their own servers.  As the NFB we can come up with a solution
> though
> to solve this problem maybe a braille tag or if you don't have a
> braille
> display  some other type of new type of varification.  Point being is,
> we
> can only change if we imagine and come up with a new solution to  the
> problem like our new car that we imagined.
> Rob
>
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> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:27 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications
>
>> Hello again everyone,
>>
>>    So they're in compliance if someone can neither read the
>> characters or
>> hear the audio? There is something called deaf-blindness. Many of
>> our
>> members have hearing impairments that are as varied as visual acuity
>> limiting their ability to hear as well as see. Again its principles
>> not
>> CAPTCHA solving methods that are at issue.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>> .
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rob Blachowicz" <rob_blach at hotmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications
>>
>>
>> I don't mean to sound blunt but they are in compliance even with our
>> own
>> standards of NFB policy. Captures are not against our policy as
>> longa s
>> they
>> have audio.
>>
>> Thanks Rob Blachowicz
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:17 PM
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>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications
>>
>>> Hello again everyone,
>>>
>>>    This whole business misses the point. We've taken a position
>>> that Web
>>> sites should be accessible to all users including the blind. Yet
>>> when
>>> money
>>> is up for grabs we send our own members to Web sites that include
>>> these
>>> very
>>> components that pose accessibility issues for us. For the record I
>>> use
>>> Web
>>> Vism and for the most part have had success. It's not the
>>> availability of
>>> CAPTCHA solving services that is at issue but the underlying
>>> principle
>>> that
>>> we believe that Web sites and other Internet resources should be
>>> blind-friendly. If we worked at hard enough we could have raised
>>> the
>>> $250,000 ourselves or through other means where we can insure Web
>>> accessibility. Were efforts made to work with Pepsi to develop a
>>> special
>>> interface that would allow all voters to participate without having
>>> to
>>> encounter that CAPTCHA? Sufficed to say we lost 62 votes due to the
>>> failure
>>> of our organization to provide a non-CAPTCHA way for all to vote
>>> via the
>>> Pepsi Web Site.
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> I do believe that as a hearing impaired person, that using such as
>>> Webvisum
>>> would help with CAPTCHA. That is exactly what Webvisum is, to help
>>> solve
>>> the
>>> CAPTCHA.
>>>
>>> Someone previously stated this, it's the same answer for a deaf
>>> blind or
>>> hearing impaired person.
>>>
>>> No more excuses not to vote!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Peter Donahue
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:25 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications
>>>
>>> Hello Shawn and everyone,
>>>
>>>    How is someone with a hearing impairment or who is deaf-blind
>>> able to
>>> use an audio CAPTCHA? Those things are so garbled that I don't mess
>>> with
>>> them. Darrell is right on with this one.
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>> .
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Sean Whalen" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>
>>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Desktop Texting Applications
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> They have an audio CAPTCHA available. Sometimes it is beneficial to
>>> check
>>> things out before complaining about them.
>>>
>>>
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