[nabs-l] Fw: Desktop Texting Applications

Thu Aug 12 13:30:59 UTC 2010

If he can't hear well enough, he could perfectly use a braille display with any screen reader, which is probably what he's doing. I think the problem here is very simple: he can use any of the available captcha solving tools, but he doesn't want to just because he doesn't agree with the mere idea of a captcha existing. We might agree with him or not, but given that it's his opinion, I think that keeping this thread alive is only going to make more and more people angry :).

Ignasi
On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Kirt Manwaring wrote:

> Dear listers,
>  I don't mean to be argumentative or anything.  But, Peter, I'm
> curious about one thing.  Do you use jaws, or any sort of screen
> reader?  Because, to me, it would seem that those aren't accessible by
> the standards you're using to judge captchas.  What's the difference?
> Respectfully,
> Kirt Manwaring
> 
> On 8/10/10, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Hello again everyone,
>> 
>>    Just wanted to pass this on if anyone is using AIM. I'll most likely
>> install AIM on our computers after we move in a few weeks.
>> 
>> Peter Donahue
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Guilbert Vickery" <citizen at ncia.net>
>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Desktop Texting Applications
>> 
>> 
>> After reading all the posts I want to say I've been using AIM both for
>> texting mobile, and regular IM for about two years now with great success.
>> When you set it up for mobile text one can have a mobile buddy list as well
>> as your normal IM user list.
>> I hope I'm providing a resource, but now I find with my wireless lap top,
>> and AIM I feel I have a pretty mobile access to text messaging.  This works
>> well with AIM 7, and scripts with JAWS.
>> 
>> Cordially,
>> Gil Vickery
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Desktop Texting Applications
>> 
>> 
>>> Some phone companies allow texting from the computer if you have an
>>> account from them.  Sprint, for example, has a
>>> place on their web site where you can send a text message.  This is of
>>> course not relevant if you have a phone that you
>>> can use for texting, but it could be an option if one has a cellphone that
>>> is not accessible.  There may be charges,
>>> though, if one is not on an unlimited plan, and I have not tried it with
>>> the shorter numbers such as this one.
>>> 
>>> Frankly, I don't like CAPTCHAs, either, but to say that using them is
>>> endorsing them is a bit of a stretch in my mind.
>>> Where is the idea that we must live in the world as it is even as we try
>>> to change it?  At least there is an audio
>>> CAPTCHA alternative which makes this sight better than some.  Even better,
>>> I was even able to solve it which is more
>>> than I can say for the GMail CAPTCHA.  <smile>
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 19:40:06 -0700, Mike Freeman wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I know of no PC apps that will simulate a SMS text message utility on a
>>>> cellphone.
>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: "Marc Maurer" <officeofthepresident at nfb.org>; "Karen Zakhnini,"
>>>> <KZakhnini at NFB.ORG>; "Mark Riccobono" <MRiccobono at NFB.ORG>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Desktop Texting Applications
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Pete, I note that you sent your concern to our lists but not directly to
>>>>> the
>>>>> folks who may have some sway here - Dr. Maurer, Mark Riccobono, and
>>>>> others
>>>>> directly involved. Since I am sure this was an oversight and that you
>>>>> and
>>>>> Mary want something good to come from this, I will copy them here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> 
>>>>> P.S. Have you set your hand to writing something about the Living
>>>>> History
>>>>> meeting for me? I think it would be most helpful for the Monitor and am
>>>>> intrigued personally by what the group is attempting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Peter Donahue
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:27 PM
>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Cc: nfb-web at nfbnet.org; Mary Donahue; NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] Desktop Texting Applications
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>>   We wish to cast our votes for the NFB Youth SLAM to receive funding
>>>>> from
>>>>> Pepsi but not if we must deal with CAPTCHAS thank you. Since we don't
>>>>> have
>>>>> talking cell phones we're curious to know if there are desktop
>>>>> applications
>>>>> that allow one to send text messages as if they were doing it from a
>>>>> cell
>>>>> phone and how usable are they by the blind?
>>>>> 
>>>>>   We want to participate but not if we're forced to deal with Web site
>>>>> security methods that lock us out. If there's a way tos submit our votes
>>>>> from our desktops as text messages freeing us from dealing with any
>>>>> CAPTCHAS
>>>>> for any part of the process that would be wonderful. We want to see the
>>>>> Youth SLAM funded but not at the expense of stances regarding Web site
>>>>> accessibility taking a back seat when money is up for grabs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter and Mary Donahue
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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