[nabs-l] Fw: Desktop Texting Applications

Thu Aug 12 16:43:10 UTC 2010

Hello everyone,

    And be sure to include information about texting options in addition to 
cell phone text messages to enable those with difficulty using captchas to 
participate without encountering them. Had this been done in the first place 
this discussion wouldn't be taking place.

Peter Donahue

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From: "Rob Blachowicz" <rob_blach at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Fw: Desktop Texting Applications

We agree that this should be done.  The problem is we do have a contest to
vote for now so lets get this done and then start to prod companies to
include accessibility for everyincluding the deff/blind.
Thanks
Rob

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From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:16 AM
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Fw: Desktop Texting Applications

> Hello everyone,
>
>    I use JFW 11 and have a moderate hearing impairment. It's to the point
> that I keep my PC volume rather loud and view the HD channels when
> watching
> T.V. I've used hearing aids but don't get the total sound spectrum. Most
> listening devices do great at giving you the highs but they stink where
> reproducing low-frequency sounds are concerned. Many of the audio captchas
> I've encountered are in the low frequency end and are so garbled that even
> sighted persons can't understand them let alone someone with any degree of
> hearing loss.
>
>    But again this misses the point. If we're going to engage in
> fundraising
> or other activities that require the interaction with an Internet resource
> more effort needs to be made to ensure that that resource is usable by a
> large number of us including those with additional disabilities such as
> hearing loss. If information for texting Pepsi via cell phone and PC had
> been provided this thread might not have been on this list. ?Any way we're
> preparing to move in two weeks so I need to concentrate on that. All the
> best.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirt Manwaring" <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Fw: Desktop Texting Applications
>
>
> Dear listers,
>  I don't mean to be argumentative or anything.  But, Peter, I'm
> curious about one thing.  Do you use jaws, or any sort of screen
> reader?  Because, to me, it would seem that those aren't accessible by
> the standards you're using to judge captchas.  What's the difference?
> Respectfully,
> Kirt Manwaring
>
> On 8/10/10, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Hello again everyone,
>>
>>     Just wanted to pass this on if anyone is using AIM. I'll most likely
>> install AIM on our computers after we move in a few weeks.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Guilbert Vickery" <citizen at ncia.net>
>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Desktop Texting Applications
>>
>>
>> After reading all the posts I want to say I've been using AIM both for
>> texting mobile, and regular IM for about two years now with great
>> success.
>> When you set it up for mobile text one can have a mobile buddy list as
>> well
>> as your normal IM user list.
>> I hope I'm providing a resource, but now I find with my wireless lap top,
>> and AIM I feel I have a pretty mobile access to text messaging.  This
>> works
>> well with AIM 7, and scripts with JAWS.
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Gil Vickery
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Desktop Texting Applications
>>
>>
>>> Some phone companies allow texting from the computer if you have an
>>> account from them.  Sprint, for example, has a
>>> place on their web site where you can send a text message.  This is of
>>> course not relevant if you have a phone that you
>>> can use for texting, but it could be an option if one has a cellphone
>>> that
>>> is not accessible.  There may be charges,
>>> though, if one is not on an unlimited plan, and I have not tried it with
>>> the shorter numbers such as this one.
>>>
>>> Frankly, I don't like CAPTCHAs, either, but to say that using them is
>>> endorsing them is a bit of a stretch in my mind.
>>> Where is the idea that we must live in the world as it is even as we try
>>> to change it?  At least there is an audio
>>> CAPTCHA alternative which makes this sight better than some.  Even
>>> better,
>>> I was even able to solve it which is more
>>> than I can say for the GMail CAPTCHA.  <smile>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 19:40:06 -0700, Mike Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>>I know of no PC apps that will simulate a SMS text message utility on a
>>>>cellphone.
>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>
>>>>To: "'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Cc: "Marc Maurer" <officeofthepresident at nfb.org>; "Karen Zakhnini,"
>>>><KZakhnini at NFB.ORG>; "Mark Riccobono" <MRiccobono at NFB.ORG>
>>>>Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:18 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Desktop Texting Applications
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Pete, I note that you sent your concern to our lists but not directly
>>>>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>> folks who may have some sway here - Dr. Maurer, Mark Riccobono, and
>>>>> others
>>>>> directly involved. Since I am sure this was an oversight and that you
>>>>> and
>>>>> Mary want something good to come from this, I will copy them here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. Have you set your hand to writing something about the Living
>>>>> History
>>>>> meeting for me? I think it would be most helpful for the Monitor and
>>>>> am
>>>>> intrigued personally by what the group is attempting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Peter Donahue
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:27 PM
>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Cc: nfb-web at nfbnet.org; Mary Donahue; NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] Desktop Texting Applications
>>>>>
>>>>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>    We wish to cast our votes for the NFB Youth SLAM to receive funding
>>>>> from
>>>>> Pepsi but not if we must deal with CAPTCHAS thank you. Since we don't
>>>>> have
>>>>> talking cell phones we're curious to know if there are desktop
>>>>> applications
>>>>> that allow one to send text messages as if they were doing it from a
>>>>> cell
>>>>> phone and how usable are they by the blind?
>>>>>
>>>>>    We want to participate but not if we're forced to deal with Web
>>>>> site
>>>>> security methods that lock us out. If there's a way tos submit our
>>>>> votes
>>>>> from our desktops as text messages freeing us from dealing with any
>>>>> CAPTCHAS
>>>>> for any part of the process that would be wonderful. We want to see
>>>>> the
>>>>> Youth SLAM funded but not at the expense of stances regarding Web site
>>>>> accessibility taking a back seat when money is up for grabs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter and Mary Donahue
>>>>>
>>>>>
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