[nabs-l] Fw: Desktop Texting Applications

Mary Fernandez trillian551 at gmail.com
Fri Aug 13 09:55:26 UTC 2010


Hey Peter,
I'm not sure if this is an option for you but if you have a facebook,
you can log in to vote that way.
Best
Mary F

On 8/12/10, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
>     And be sure to include information about texting options in addition to
> cell phone text messages to enable those with difficulty using captchas to
> participate without encountering them. Had this been done in the first place
> this discussion wouldn't be taking place.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Blachowicz" <rob_blach at hotmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Fw: Desktop Texting Applications
>
>
>
> We agree that this should be done.  The problem is we do have a contest to
> vote for now so lets get this done and then start to prod companies to
> include accessibility for everyincluding the deff/blind.
> Thanks
> Rob
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:16 AM
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Fw: Desktop Texting Applications
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>    I use JFW 11 and have a moderate hearing impairment. It's to the point
>> that I keep my PC volume rather loud and view the HD channels when
>> watching
>> T.V. I've used hearing aids but don't get the total sound spectrum. Most
>> listening devices do great at giving you the highs but they stink where
>> reproducing low-frequency sounds are concerned. Many of the audio captchas
>> I've encountered are in the low frequency end and are so garbled that even
>> sighted persons can't understand them let alone someone with any degree of
>> hearing loss.
>>
>>    But again this misses the point. If we're going to engage in
>> fundraising
>> or other activities that require the interaction with an Internet resource
>> more effort needs to be made to ensure that that resource is usable by a
>> large number of us including those with additional disabilities such as
>> hearing loss. If information for texting Pepsi via cell phone and PC had
>> been provided this thread might not have been on this list. ?Any way we're
>> preparing to move in two weeks so I need to concentrate on that. All the
>> best.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kirt Manwaring" <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Fw: Desktop Texting Applications
>>
>>
>> Dear listers,
>>  I don't mean to be argumentative or anything.  But, Peter, I'm
>> curious about one thing.  Do you use jaws, or any sort of screen
>> reader?  Because, to me, it would seem that those aren't accessible by
>> the standards you're using to judge captchas.  What's the difference?
>> Respectfully,
>> Kirt Manwaring
>>
>> On 8/10/10, Peter Donahue <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> Hello again everyone,
>>>
>>>     Just wanted to pass this on if anyone is using AIM. I'll most likely
>>> install AIM on our computers after we move in a few weeks.
>>>
>>> Peter Donahue
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Guilbert Vickery" <citizen at ncia.net>
>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Desktop Texting Applications
>>>
>>>
>>> After reading all the posts I want to say I've been using AIM both for
>>> texting mobile, and regular IM for about two years now with great
>>> success.
>>> When you set it up for mobile text one can have a mobile buddy list as
>>> well
>>> as your normal IM user list.
>>> I hope I'm providing a resource, but now I find with my wireless lap top,
>>> and AIM I feel I have a pretty mobile access to text messaging.  This
>>> works
>>> well with AIM 7, and scripts with JAWS.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>> Gil Vickery
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
>>> To: "NFB in Computer Science Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Desktop Texting Applications
>>>
>>>
>>>> Some phone companies allow texting from the computer if you have an
>>>> account from them.  Sprint, for example, has a
>>>> place on their web site where you can send a text message.  This is of
>>>> course not relevant if you have a phone that you
>>>> can use for texting, but it could be an option if one has a cellphone
>>>> that
>>>> is not accessible.  There may be charges,
>>>> though, if one is not on an unlimited plan, and I have not tried it with
>>>> the shorter numbers such as this one.
>>>>
>>>> Frankly, I don't like CAPTCHAs, either, but to say that using them is
>>>> endorsing them is a bit of a stretch in my mind.
>>>> Where is the idea that we must live in the world as it is even as we try
>>>> to change it?  At least there is an audio
>>>> CAPTCHA alternative which makes this sight better than some.  Even
>>>> better,
>>>> I was even able to solve it which is more
>>>> than I can say for the GMail CAPTCHA.  <smile>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 19:40:06 -0700, Mike Freeman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I know of no PC apps that will simulate a SMS text message utility on a
>>>>>cellphone.
>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Gary Wunder" <gwunder at earthlink.net>
>>>>>To: "'NFB in Computer Science Mailing List'" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Cc: "Marc Maurer" <officeofthepresident at nfb.org>; "Karen Zakhnini,"
>>>>><KZakhnini at NFB.ORG>; "Mark Riccobono" <MRiccobono at NFB.ORG>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:18 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfbcs] Desktop Texting Applications
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Pete, I note that you sent your concern to our lists but not directly
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> folks who may have some sway here - Dr. Maurer, Mark Riccobono, and
>>>>>> others
>>>>>> directly involved. Since I am sure this was an oversight and that you
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Mary want something good to come from this, I will copy them here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. Have you set your hand to writing something about the Living
>>>>>> History
>>>>>> meeting for me? I think it would be most helpful for the Monitor and
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> intrigued personally by what the group is attempting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfbcs-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Peter Donahue
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:27 PM
>>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Cc: nfb-web at nfbnet.org; Mary Donahue; NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: [nfbcs] Desktop Texting Applications
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    We wish to cast our votes for the NFB Youth SLAM to receive funding
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> Pepsi but not if we must deal with CAPTCHAS thank you. Since we don't
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> talking cell phones we're curious to know if there are desktop
>>>>>> applications
>>>>>> that allow one to send text messages as if they were doing it from a
>>>>>> cell
>>>>>> phone and how usable are they by the blind?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    We want to participate but not if we're forced to deal with Web
>>>>>> site
>>>>>> security methods that lock us out. If there's a way tos submit our
>>>>>> votes
>>>>>> from our desktops as text messages freeing us from dealing with any
>>>>>> CAPTCHAS
>>>>>> for any part of the process that would be wonderful. We want to see
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Youth SLAM funded but not at the expense of stances regarding Web site
>>>>>> accessibility taking a back seat when money is up for grabs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter and Mary Donahue
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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