[nabs-l] update on dog training career. need help!

Beth thebluesisloose at gmail.com
Fri Aug 13 15:10:07 UTC 2010


I have a blind O and M instructor here at CCB, and she's the best.
This goes to show that blind O and M instructors don't have to see.  I
have to do things differently with this lady, but she's really cool.
I like her a lot.
Beth

On 8/13/10, Jewel S. <herekittykat2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I actually don't think you should cut your losses on this school. To
> do so would mean that they win and that blind people will continue to
> be left out of their program and they will continue to have
> discriminatory practices.
>
> Federal law trumps California law any day. The ADA tells us that
> discrimination cannot be made based on a disability. Visual impairment
> is, of course, a disability in today's society, so this is
> discrimination based on disability. I would highly suggest contacting
> NFB corporate headquarters for advice on how to go about suing this
> school, because I think you should. If you don't, they will continue
> to exclude people who have a visual impairment. The NFB is dedicated
> to making schools, companies, and programs accessible to the blind and
> have helped other students (such as the suing of Arizona State for
> using an inaccessible e-text device, the Amazon Kindle). They should
> be able to help or point you in the right direction at least.
>
> I would not give up on this! As others said, this is just like the
> argument against blind O&M instructors not being able to see
> obstacles, traffic, and the student. It is discrimintation and
> misconceptions of the worst kind.
>
> ~Jewel
>
> On 8/13/10, Joe Orozco <jsorozco at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Have you contacted someone at the Guide Dogs for the Blind?  I thought
>> they
>> were among one of the first schools to experiment with blind instructors
>> on
>> their campus, but I could be wrong.  For this issue, I think going with
>> the
>> ACB's guide dog division would be a good idea.  I don't like directly
>> pitting one group over the other, but I've seen some good things come out
>> of
>> that organization.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Valerie Gibson
>> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 1:17 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] update on dog training career. need help!
>>
>> If anyone hasnt' followed up on what i'm trying to do, i'll
>> start by giving a brief intro.
>>
>> I'm tryingto get into a program that would allow me to become a
>> dog trainer The school is based on California, but students can
>> work from home with the aid of a teacher and people in the
>> area.  I guess it's like a distance learning program.  I would
>> not know however as they will not send me imformation or allow
>> me to enroll inthe program as they said i do not meet their
>> physical requirements.  That is, i do not have a vusual equity
>> of 150 feet.
>>
>> I was suggested to email back and ask in what way this
>> requirement would be needed.  Here's the email i got:
>> Valerie,
>> Unfortunately, ABC is unable to make exceptions to the physical
>> requirements necessary to enter the program. They have been set
>> by the state of California to keep you safe while you are in
>> the program. You would be training dogs in group sessions or in
>> a clients home and it would be imperative that you be able to
>> see dogs approaching you that may be aggressive or confrontational.
>> Regards,
>> Deborah
>>
>> If anyone has any imformation on how i could fight this, or if
>> i should just call it a loss, please let me know.
>>
>> Thank you so much for your responces to my last email.
>> Look forward to hearing from you.
>>
>> Val
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> --
> ~Jewel
> Check out my blog about accessibility for the blind!
> Treasure Chest for the Blind: http://blindtreasurechest.blogspot.com
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