[nabs-l] update on dog training career. need help!

Beth thebluesisloose at gmail.com
Sun Aug 15 05:54:59 UTC 2010


Val,
I really love your attitude.  I'm not going to make people like me for
what I want to do for women, so I'm just going to go to school and
becomea social worker for women in battered women's shelters.  So what
if people say I can't stqand a cowering woman and a big violent guy?
I'm tiny, really tiny, and I think short people have pretty big
brains, mind you.  This goes to show that it's all about one's
attitude.
Beth

On 8/14/10, Valerie Gibson <valandkayla at gmail.com> wrote:
> I also do not agree with cuting my losses to this school, simply bcause of
> the aftermath, for a couple of reasons.
>
> 1.  I've looked into other dog training schools, and this one seems to be
> the best. it offers hands-on training over a lot of subjects related to dog
> training as well as dog care such as neutrition, health problems in breeds,
> etc.
>
> 2.  If i asked a sighted person to find a carreer that they liked, then find
> a school that would help them achieve that job, then told them, "now take
> that school, and forget about it. find the second best.", they would most
> likely tell me to take a long walk off of a short peer.
>
> Sighted people have professors that may not like them in universities, and
> that does not mean that they should switch classes.
>
> Even after my schooling, i'm going to be faced with people who do not
> approve of my job vhoice, and even more who will not allow me to train their
> dogs due to blindness. I might as well get used to it.
>
> I am going into the school to gain the knowledge and foundation that i need
> to become a successful dog trainer, and i'm not asking anyone to like me for
> it.
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 8:49 PM, Joe Orozco wrote:
>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I don't know that I completely agree with finding another school that
>> might
>> be more welcoming and allowing actions to speak for themselves.  It's a
>> good
>> thought if only because it will move along Valerie's career, but not
>> fighting it simply because a victory might expose her to an awkward
>> environment afterward is not good enough to let it go.  A few years ago I
>> sued a Chinese bus carrier after they gave me a hard time about my guide
>> dog
>> on what became three consecutive occasions.  On the first two occasions
>> the
>> situation became a nuisance involving the police.  I fought it and
>> successfully took my trips to and from New York from DC, but the traveling
>> consisted of a lot of dirty looks and hateful muttering.  On the third
>> attempt I was not even allowed to board the bus, but by then the case was
>> already well on its way to federal court.  My point is that the current
>> school will not learn from Valerie going away.  Finding another school
>> while
>> still pursuing action with the current campus is one option, but I hope
>> something will become of this situation.  I do not know Valerie
>> personally.
>> I assume she meets all the other qualifications associated with enrollment
>> and that the only reason enrollment is being denied is that she cannot
>> see.
>> If so, it's an issue that needs to be rectified if for no other reason
>> than
>> that the opportunity needs to exist for future blind applicants.  I don't
>> know if my friendly little bus people would allow people to board their
>> buses with service animals these days, but I know they'll at least think
>> twice before saying "no."
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves,
>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>
>>
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