[nabs-l] Help from anyone thaqt can assist me

Ashley Bramlett bookwormahb at earthlink.net
Mon Aug 16 03:12:13 UTC 2010


Doug,
Again, I hope you have a career goal in going back to school. Do some 
research on the career you want such as the salary, work environment, 
whether its a growing field and if possible talk to people working in that 
field.  This way you can talk about why this is a good career for you.

I think you might need an advocate.  Why is your counselor telling you that 
you can't
do "strictly school" if that will help you get a good job and better salary? 
Generally those who have obtained a BA/BS have more job opportunities and 
get paid more for doing the same work a non graduate has.

As long as you're not just going to school for the heck of it, but going for 
a real purpose related to your employment goal, then VR should be fine with 
that.

Ashley
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Oliver" <oliver.doug1 at gmail.com>
To: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>; "National Association of 
Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Help from anyone thaqt can assist me


> thing is she has stated that I can't be doing strictly school,  and that 
> is my plan is to go back to school.  I'll ask her to give me some 
> resources for counseling,  which might be helpful although another 
> counselor paid for someone to be able to have counseling,  but I will have 
> her look up some resources.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Help from anyone thaqt can assist me
>
>
>> Doug,
>> I'm confused because you haven't told us your plan.  You need a plan so 
>> you can discuss your vocational goal with your counselor.  Further I'm 
>> confused
>> why you'd request your VR counselor's assistance
>> in getting counseling for your emotional issues.
>> If you're young you're still a dependent on your parent's income and 
>> their insurance should cover counseling.
>> If not you probably have Medicade and this also covers counseling 
>> services. Its not your VR counselor's job to get this psychological 
>> service although it would be helpful if she gave you some resources for 
>> mental health services.
>> I do hope you get those services though.
>>
>> What do you want to go to school for? What
>> have they trained you on?
>> Its reasonable for a VR counselor to do a program review if you are not 
>> doing the agreed upon plan;
>> you can change your mind of course, everyone does change career goals, 
>> but you need to let VR know.  This VR goal will be in your individualized 
>> plan for employment, IPE.
>>
>>
>> Unless I'm missing something, I really don't see why its so bad you tell 
>> VR you're going to school.  Tell them what you're going for.  You say 
>> she'll want to cover the
>> schooling.  If so, can't you just say you have financial resources to 
>> cover schooling?  I don't think you are under any obligation to accept 
>> financial help from VR, but you should tell them you're attending school.
>>
>> Do you have any college course work?
>> Its a bad time to look for work now but I hope you made the decission to 
>> attend school on several factors, not just that you are fed up looking 
>> for work; many people are frustrated with the job hunt now.
>>
>> My counselor was glad she didn't have to cover my schooling.
>> In fact in my state VA, VR will not cover private or religious schools, 
>> nor will they cover you if your parent's income is above a certain 
>> amount.
>>
>> As long as you have a clear plan, your counselor is supposed to follow it 
>> and support your VR goal.  Its not her job to pick it for you.  If she 
>> does not follow your plan, take it to her supervisor.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Ashley
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Doug Oliver" <oliver.doug1 at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 9:19 PM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Help from anyone thaqt can assist me
>>
>>
>>> Ok all. I have a slight issue here.
>>> I have a counseler that is not wanting to work with me with my local 
>>> blind agency.
>>> I'm in the Dallas Texas area.
>>> What's going on is I called her the other day to ask for her assistance 
>>> with counseling as I've got some emotional issues that I'm needing help 
>>> with and can't do it on my own.
>>> She says she needs to do a program review as I'm not doing anything that 
>>> they've trained me on,  and I have made a change in plan as I want to go 
>>> back to school instead of just going back to work as finding work right 
>>> now just isn't cutting it.
>>> I don't want to put on my iep that I'm going to school as she'll want to 
>>> cover the schooling, and I don't want to have to take 12 hours of 
>>> classes. I for me, since I've not been in school since I graduated high 
>>> school, I want to start out with 1 class at a time and go from there.
>>> What do I do?  as I have a meeting with her this Thursday.
>>> I want to tell her exactly what I want, but not sure how to approach it 
>>> without coming across as harsh, or as a jerk.
>>> Please let me know what to do before I have to go meet with her 
>>> Thursday.
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