[nabs-l] Why go through all of that trouble

[Rob Blachowicz]

Yes it was and I did do it but dropped it and luckally I avoided it since it 
is not a requirement by the SUNY system but was by Florida.
Rob

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From: "Jamie Principato" <blackbyrdfly at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:12 AM
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Why go through all of that trouble

> Was this a required class? I know Humanities/Fine Arts is often an 
> undergrad
> requirement, but there are usually a number of nonvisual ways of 
> fulfilling
> this requirement.
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Rob Blachowicz 
> <rob_blach at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> What I was refering to  was a class I had to take called understanding 
>> and
>> visualizing the arts and what it was was a text based class to analize
>> colors and things.  Their claim was that a blind person should still know
>> the colors even if they are blind.  Now, how am I suppose to know what 
>> one
>> of the colors are that aren't a regular color like teal?  Maybe you guys
>> would disagree but I'm so glad I swhiched colleges after that for other
>> reasons.
>> Rob
>>
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>> From: "Jamie Principato" <blackbyrdfly at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:51 PM
>>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Why go through all of that trouble
>>
>>  Well certainly. I would certainly advise against taking a figure drawing
>>> course if you have absolutely no vision and no sound idea of how you're
>>> going to function in the course. But the vast majority of courses with
>>> visual elements cannot be avoided without unreasonably limiting one's
>>> opportunities.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Rob Blachowicz <rob_blach at hotmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>  I partially agree with you but there are some courses that  iwould
>>>> disagree
>>>> such as a course that deals with complete visual interpretation  unless
>>>> your
>>>> taking a arts major.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> From: "Jamie Principato" <blackbyrdfly at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:07 PM
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Why go through all of that trouble
>>>>
>>>>  I'm sorry, but I have to be honest, that sounds down right 
>>>> unrealistic.
>>>> It
>>>>
>>>>> may work for some majors, but for the vast majority of fields, you
>>>>> simply
>>>>> cannot avoid classes with visual elements, and it is this kind of
>>>>> thinking
>>>>> that causes a lot of blind students to not even consider careers in, 
>>>>> for
>>>>> example, STEM fields. Anyway, if you avoid facing situations where
>>>>> you'll
>>>>> have to find a way to deal with visual elements all through college,
>>>>> when
>>>>> will you get the hang of dealing with them? When you're a working 
>>>>> adult
>>>>> who,
>>>>> despite ADA compliance at work, still has to find a way to read
>>>>> non-electronic mail, materials that simply can't be made accessible in 
>>>>> a
>>>>> timely enough manner, etc? I can say from esperience that working with 
>>>>> a
>>>>> reader is a pain in the nect, especially for special circumstances 
>>>>> like
>>>>> these, but while striving to get the accommodations you need can be
>>>>> tiresome, better you do it now and get good at doing it than limit 
>>>>> your
>>>>> opportunities as a blind individual to save yourself the hassle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best of luck. i really hope everything works out for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Brian Hatgelakas <
>>>>> brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  As a student who successfully graduated from college I think that you
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tina
>>>>>> should try to avoid all classes with visual elements.  Depending on 
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> time and energy your reader has to do this tactile work is probably
>>>>>> minimal
>>>>>> at best.  Do as much writing work as possible if the reader can't be 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> class room with you.  What is your major Tina?  I was a broadcast
>>>>>> journalism
>>>>>> major myself.
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