[nabs-l] Why go through all of that trouble

Jamie Principato blackbyrdfly at gmail.com
Sat Aug 21 04:12:50 UTC 2010


Was this a required class? I know Humanities/Fine Arts is often an undergrad
requirement, but there are usually a number of nonvisual ways of fulfilling
this requirement.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Rob Blachowicz <rob_blach at hotmail.com>wrote:

> What I was refering to  was a class I had to take called understanding and
> visualizing the arts and what it was was a text based class to analize
> colors and things.  Their claim was that a blind person should still know
> the colors even if they are blind.  Now, how am I suppose to know what one
> of the colors are that aren't a regular color like teal?  Maybe you guys
> would disagree but I'm so glad I swhiched colleges after that for other
> reasons.
> Rob
>
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> From: "Jamie Principato" <blackbyrdfly at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:51 PM
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>  Well certainly. I would certainly advise against taking a figure drawing
>> course if you have absolutely no vision and no sound idea of how you're
>> going to function in the course. But the vast majority of courses with
>> visual elements cannot be avoided without unreasonably limiting one's
>> opportunities.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Rob Blachowicz <rob_blach at hotmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  I partially agree with you but there are some courses that  iwould
>>> disagree
>>> such as a course that deals with complete visual interpretation  unless
>>> your
>>> taking a arts major.
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: "Jamie Principato" <blackbyrdfly at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:07 PM
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <
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>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Why go through all of that trouble
>>>
>>>  I'm sorry, but I have to be honest, that sounds down right unrealistic.
>>> It
>>>
>>>> may work for some majors, but for the vast majority of fields, you
>>>> simply
>>>> cannot avoid classes with visual elements, and it is this kind of
>>>> thinking
>>>> that causes a lot of blind students to not even consider careers in, for
>>>> example, STEM fields. Anyway, if you avoid facing situations where
>>>> you'll
>>>> have to find a way to deal with visual elements all through college,
>>>> when
>>>> will you get the hang of dealing with them? When you're a working adult
>>>> who,
>>>> despite ADA compliance at work, still has to find a way to read
>>>> non-electronic mail, materials that simply can't be made accessible in a
>>>> timely enough manner, etc? I can say from esperience that working with a
>>>> reader is a pain in the nect, especially for special circumstances like
>>>> these, but while striving to get the accommodations you need can be
>>>> tiresome, better you do it now and get good at doing it than limit your
>>>> opportunities as a blind individual to save yourself the hassle.
>>>>
>>>> Best of luck. i really hope everything works out for you.
>>>>
>>>> -Jamie
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Brian Hatgelakas <
>>>> brian.hatgelakas at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  As a student who successfully graduated from college I think that you
>>>>
>>>>> Tina
>>>>> should try to avoid all classes with visual elements.  Depending on how
>>>>> much
>>>>> time and energy your reader has to do this tactile work is probably
>>>>> minimal
>>>>> at best.  Do as much writing work as possible if the reader can't be in
>>>>> your
>>>>> class room with you.  What is your major Tina?  I was a broadcast
>>>>> journalism
>>>>> major myself.
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