[nabs-l] techniques in cafeterias and trays

Darian Smith dsmithnfb at gmail.com
Sun Jan 3 19:37:13 UTC 2010 

This technique seemed to make sense to me for dog handlers at first
thought, but my question is  What if you need to   give a correction?

On 1/3/10, Briley Pollard <brileyp at gmail.com> wrote:
> I usually use the same technique  of holding the tray against my hip or
> side, even when I'm using my dog.  As long as I have a firm grasp on the
> drink, and steady down the dog, I have no problems. Good luck.
> On Jan 3, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Hope Paulos wrote:
>
>> This technique makes sense for a cane user. Can those students with dogs
>> explain how they carry a tray, please? I'm also interested. I usually
>> carry my drink in my right hand and ask someone to carry my tray. My dog
>> is trained with both hand signals and verbal  commands. Any assistance
>> would be appreciated.
>> Hope and Beignet
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 9:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] techniques in cafeterias and trays
>>
>>
>>> hey,
>>> I  have done a few things in this situation; I've  asked someone for
>>> the general layout of the area  and have gone about it from there,  I
>>> have also listened to the sound of people congragating in lines and
>>> have  used those sound cues   to find out where I should be going.
>>> I think the easiest thing is just to  go with a student who might be
>>> headed in that direction to get to  the line  you  need to get to and
>>> then  ask someone around  as you need about  the lay out of the foods
>>> in relation  to you (bread is in front of you, salid to  the left of
>>> it, salid dressing to  it's left and so-on).   As for holding a trey;
>>> I usually hold the trey on my left side (non-cane using side) with my
>>> arm securing the trey aginst my side and  looping my index finger and
>>> thumb around the cup if I have one.  I can still use my cane in this
>>> way and  I just make sure to clear  the path of travel with my cane as
>>> always.
>>>  Best,
>>> Darian
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/2/10, Ashley  Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Dave,
>>>> Yes there are techniques and thanks for sharing.  As you see though some
>>>> of
>>>> us have trouble with it.  Someone said the tray wobbles and if the tray
>>>> is
>>>> heavy this is a problem.
>>>> I tried the second way of sliding your arm under the tray and placing
>>>> the
>>>> tray on top  of your arm.  This didn't work for me because one side did
>>>> not
>>>> have stability.  The tray fell down.  Fortunately, I was practicing and
>>>> the
>>>> tray was empty.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried the first way and it works a little better for me.  Its
>>>> hard to
>>>> describe what to do, but there are probably several ways.  So if you all
>>>> have ideas share them.
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:06 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] techniques in cafeterias and trays
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Actually, there are techniques a blind person can use to safely carry a
>>>>> tray, and still use a cane.
>>>>>
>>>>> One method involves kind of wrapping your arm around the tray along its
>>>>> edge, and pressing the other side against your body, and holding it
>>>>> that
>>>>> way.  Your hand can also extend past the edge of the tray, into they
>>>>> tray
>>>>> where it can hold your drink for stability.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another method involves making your arm into an angle and setting the
>>>>> tray
>>>>>
>>>>> on top of your arm.
>>>>>
>>>>> I probably aren't explaining very well, but it can be done with
>>>>> practice.
>>>>> It is something most of us as blind people are nervous about in one way
>>>>> or
>>>>>
>>>>> another.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> At 09:24 AM 1/2/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is okay to ask some one to help you carry the tray in my opinion
>>>>>> because it wobbles and it can tip over very easily. You can not carry
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> cane and control the try safely. It is very hard to do this with out
>>>>>> spilling. Stay warm from all the wind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>> > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> > Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 22:55:28 -0500
>>>>>> > Subject: [nabs-l] techniques in cafeterias and trays
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Hi all,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > How do you handle cafeterias? If your university is like mine,
>>>>>> and most are standard setups, you have various stations. For instance
>>>>>> mine had an entree line, grill, sandwich area, salad bar and more. Did
>>>>>> you have an employee help you? I chose to do that since it was most
>>>>>> efficient. We walked to the various places and they told me the food
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I selected what I wanted.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Do you carry your own tray? I always struggled with that; its
>>>>>> hard to balance and keep level. A mobility instructor showed me but
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> hard; always seems to wobble in my hand. I either place my hand across
>>>>>> the tray or under the tray and grasp it from underneath. I usually opt
>>>>>> for someone to carry it.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Happy New year!
>>>>>> > Ashley
>>>>>
>>>>>
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slumber, and slough off our fear, and make good on the debt we owe
past and future generations,
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