[nabs-l] techniques in cafeterias and trays

Briley Pollard brileyp at gmail.com
Sun Jan 3 22:03:48 UTC 2010


Verbal is usually effective for Wrangler. I suppose I've never been in a situation where I needed to give a leash correction while carrying a tray. I try to avoid leash corrections whenever possible, so my dog is very responsibe to verbal ones.
On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:37 PM, Darian Smith wrote:

> This technique seemed to make sense to me for dog handlers at first
> thought, but my question is  What if you need to   give a correction?
> 
> On 1/3/10, Briley Pollard <brileyp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I usually use the same technique  of holding the tray against my hip or
>> side, even when I'm using my dog.  As long as I have a firm grasp on the
>> drink, and steady down the dog, I have no problems. Good luck.
>> On Jan 3, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Hope Paulos wrote:
>> 
>>> This technique makes sense for a cane user. Can those students with dogs
>>> explain how they carry a tray, please? I'm also interested. I usually
>>> carry my drink in my right hand and ask someone to carry my tray. My dog
>>> is trained with both hand signals and verbal  commands. Any assistance
>>> would be appreciated.
>>> Hope and Beignet
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 9:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] techniques in cafeterias and trays
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> hey,
>>>> I  have done a few things in this situation; I've  asked someone for
>>>> the general layout of the area  and have gone about it from there,  I
>>>> have also listened to the sound of people congragating in lines and
>>>> have  used those sound cues   to find out where I should be going.
>>>> I think the easiest thing is just to  go with a student who might be
>>>> headed in that direction to get to  the line  you  need to get to and
>>>> then  ask someone around  as you need about  the lay out of the foods
>>>> in relation  to you (bread is in front of you, salid to  the left of
>>>> it, salid dressing to  it's left and so-on).   As for holding a trey;
>>>> I usually hold the trey on my left side (non-cane using side) with my
>>>> arm securing the trey aginst my side and  looping my index finger and
>>>> thumb around the cup if I have one.  I can still use my cane in this
>>>> way and  I just make sure to clear  the path of travel with my cane as
>>>> always.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Darian
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/2/10, Ashley  Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> Dave,
>>>>> Yes there are techniques and thanks for sharing.  As you see though some
>>>>> of
>>>>> us have trouble with it.  Someone said the tray wobbles and if the tray
>>>>> is
>>>>> heavy this is a problem.
>>>>> I tried the second way of sliding your arm under the tray and placing
>>>>> the
>>>>> tray on top  of your arm.  This didn't work for me because one side did
>>>>> not
>>>>> have stability.  The tray fell down.  Fortunately, I was practicing and
>>>>> the
>>>>> tray was empty.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have tried the first way and it works a little better for me.  Its
>>>>> hard to
>>>>> describe what to do, but there are probably several ways.  So if you all
>>>>> have ideas share them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:06 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] techniques in cafeterias and trays
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Actually, there are techniques a blind person can use to safely carry a
>>>>>> tray, and still use a cane.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One method involves kind of wrapping your arm around the tray along its
>>>>>> edge, and pressing the other side against your body, and holding it
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> way.  Your hand can also extend past the edge of the tray, into they
>>>>>> tray
>>>>>> where it can hold your drink for stability.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Another method involves making your arm into an angle and setting the
>>>>>> tray
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> on top of your arm.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I probably aren't explaining very well, but it can be done with
>>>>>> practice.
>>>>>> It is something most of us as blind people are nervous about in one way
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> another.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At 09:24 AM 1/2/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is okay to ask some one to help you carry the tray in my opinion
>>>>>>> because it wobbles and it can tip over very easily. You can not carry
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> cane and control the try safely. It is very hard to do this with out
>>>>>>> spilling. Stay warm from all the wind.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 22:55:28 -0500
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] techniques in cafeterias and trays
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How do you handle cafeterias? If your university is like mine,
>>>>>>> and most are standard setups, you have various stations. For instance
>>>>>>> mine had an entree line, grill, sandwich area, salad bar and more. Did
>>>>>>> you have an employee help you? I chose to do that since it was most
>>>>>>> efficient. We walked to the various places and they told me the food
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> I selected what I wanted.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Do you carry your own tray? I always struggled with that; its
>>>>>>> hard to balance and keep level. A mobility instructor showed me but
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> hard; always seems to wobble in my hand. I either place my hand across
>>>>>>> the tray or under the tray and grasp it from underneath. I usually opt
>>>>>>> for someone to carry it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Happy New year!
>>>>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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> calling, and see as I see, a future of endless possibility stretching
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> slumber, and slough off our fear, and make good on the debt we owe
> past and future generations,
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> you. Together, starting today, let us finish the work that needs to be
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