[nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs

Teal Bloodworth tealbloodworth at gmail.com
Mon Jan 4 22:07:28 UTC 2010 

yeah i dont trust myself to go out in that environment without a group of 
friends. Taking my side kick guide dog is not realistic because of the 
crowded and loud room and i would misplace a white cane so i would latch on 
to some friends and go out. I wasnt looked at as depending on them and being 
socially awkward. Living in a smaller college campus with all the other 
colleges being small too you see  alot of the same people and most of them 
have had a class with me which allowed for small talk or even them 
approaching me to begin with.

If i were getting someones phone number either as a friend or an intimate 
interest i would either have them call me and leave a message  then i would 
hand them the phone and have them put it in there and tell me the speed dial 
number. Or just hand it to them and have them do that. I am not braille 
literate because i dont like braille and it doesnt like me. I wouldnt want 
to take an expensive device with me in case i sat it down and forgetfully 
leave it. Yes my pose may seem foolish to you all and maybe this undignifys 
me by making it seem like i depend on people who are sighted but i used to 
be one of them. I treat them like they treat me and i have more sighted 
friends than blind or visually impaired because where i live i am the only 
blind person. This is in my home town and at my small private college. Maybe 
i just have really good friends who packed me home on a night where i had 
too much and had to learn the hard way. who always returned my personal 
posessions and wouldnt pity me for being blind but rather expected for me to 
act no different.

        -Teal
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "V Nork" <ginisd at sbcglobal.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
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Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs


> Hello list, As I read this great thread, I wonder, as a woman, what the 
> thinking is about going out to clubs and bars alone, with just a cane and 
> cell phone?  I have never tried this, but I would like to venture out 
> alone, maybe you could share your experiences and ideas?  Most of my 
> friends I do hang out with are not into clubs, so this would be a solo 
> outing for me. Thanks , Ginny
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Briley Pollard" <brileyp at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs
>
>
>> Depending exclusively on a sighted guide is of course not wise. Having no 
>> other mobility aid available is  foolish. However, using sighted guide in 
>> addition to another mobility aid is useful at times such as in loud and 
>> crowded environments such as night clubs. I'm not saying hang on to your 
>> friends all night, (that is obviously awkward and defeats the purpose of 
>> going tout to have fun), but it still can be helpful. Even when I'm with 
>> blind friends, often someone might hold my arm while using their cane 
>> just to insure we stay together in crowded environments. My point is it 
>> shouldn't be disregarded as a viable tool in addition to others.
>>
>> BrileyOn Jan 3, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Jedi wrote:
>>
>>> And that's why one should avoid depending  on a sighted guide if at all 
>>> possible so that their decisions don't have to affect yours.
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>> Jedi
>>>
>>>
>>> Original message:
>>>> hmm no i wouldnt take my guide dog since music would be loud and there 
>>>> would
>>>> just be too  much activity but i never really take a cane either. I 
>>>> think
>>>> the first time i went to a bar since my vision loss or a  club yes i 
>>>> had my
>>>> cell and my cane but after the first time i left it and went with 
>>>> friends
>>>> sighted guide.
>>>
>>>> here is another question alittle off topic. What if you went sighted 
>>>> guide
>>>> and your guide ended up drinking. do you drink too? what if you wanted 
>>>> to
>>>> drink, would you do it in a nightblub or bar or even alittle further in
>>>> public?
>>>
>>>>            -Teal
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Brice Smith" <brice.smith319 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:16 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I know this is slightly off topic from the original question and
>>>>> others might have different opinions on this, but a club or bar is the
>>>>> last environment I'd feel comfortable losing any type of independence
>>>>> whatsoever. What happens if you find yourself separated from your
>>>>> friends? As a guy I never go out at night without my cane, cell phone,
>>>>> and some extra cash ... and for good reason women usually worry over
>>>>> this more than guys do. Buy an identification cane or one of the new
>>>>> ambutech telescoping canes if you need something light -- anything to
>>>>> keep yourself feeling and looking independent if something unexpected
>>>>> happens.
>>>
>>>>> To add to the original question, ditch the notetaker or anything extra
>>>>> that unnecessarily weighs you down. Except for my cane, I never carry
>>>>> anything that can't fit into my pocket. Doing otherwise is asking for
>>>>> trouble.
>>>
>>>>> Brice
>>>>> On 1/1/10, Adrianne Dempsey <adrianne.dempsey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I think taking a note taker to the club is a bad idea.  I don't even
>>>>>> bring
>>>>>> my purse because it is just something to carry around.  You don't 
>>>>>> want to
>>>>>> set it down somewhere, and you would just look silly dancing with it. 
>>>>>> In
>>>>>> fact I don't even bring my cane because I don't know what to do with 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the dance floor.  I usually go with a friend and just go sighted 
>>>>>> guide.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> hate loosing a bit of independence but what ells can you do.  If I go
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> other blind friends then I usually bring my cane but I always feel 
>>>>>> silly
>>>>>> with it at the club.  As far as phone numbers...  I think having 
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> ells program it in to your phone is fine if you can not do it 
>>>>>> yourself.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> my phone is not very accessible and I can do it.  I just  hit o.k. 
>>>>>> and it
>>>>>> brings up a menu the first thing on the menu is add contact.  I hit 
>>>>>> O.K.
>>>>>> again, and then you can type in the number then down arrow and type 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> name. Then hit o.k. again and their it is.  Another option is to have 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> bizness card with your info, so you can give the new person your 
>>>>>> number.
>>>>>> This is probably not so necessary as pretty much every one has cell
>>>>>> phones
>>>>>> now but it is a thought.  The slate and stylist is a good idea to if 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> get a hold of one of those ninny slates.  But you have to be careful 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> this option, because you could get stabbed with the stylist if you 
>>>>>> move
>>>>>> funny or if your pants are tight.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 4:24 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmmmm. Interesting subject.  I would've taken the notetaker just
>>>>>>> because I'm pretty touchy feely about my information.  The numbers 
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> not programmable by a blind person in my cell phone, so a note taker
>>>>>>> is a good option.
>>>>>>> Beth
>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/1/10, Kevin Wassmer <commanderlumpy2003 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello folks. It's been a long time sense I have bought up a 
>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> here. First of all, I will say I am doing fine. I have a job at 
>>>>>>>> Verizon
>>>>>>>> Wireless working at a call center. It is challenging. How it is
>>>>>>>> rewarding. I
>>>>>>>> am glad to finely get off of social security soon. Or as I call it
>>>>>>>> socialist
>>>>>>>> insecurity. But that's another story.
>>>
>>>>>>>>                I want to bring up a topic. I use to go to night 
>>>>>>>> clubs
>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>> in the day. I did not want to bring my Braille Note with me because 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> thought back then of bringing my note taker sounded strange. But I
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> always have a problem if I met someone and wanted to get their 
>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> was because the music was so loud that it was hard to communicate. 
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> have people program numbers in to my cell phone at nosy places like
>>>>>>>> that.
>>>
>>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>>> question to you all is this. Being blind, would you have taken your
>>>>>>>> note
>>>>>>>> taker to the night club? The more I think about it, the more I 
>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> Slate and Styles would have been a great option for some like the 
>>>>>>>> night
>>>>>>>> club
>>>>>>>> sidereal. What would you have done?
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