[nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs

Mon Jan 4 23:04:51 UTC 2010

Teal,

I don't think any of us think you are foolish for what you do. The
point of the list is to discuss what we do and think. I personally
respect your decisions to do things your way, that is part of being
independent.

Aziza

On 1/4/10, Teal Bloodworth <tealbloodworth at gmail.com> wrote:
> yeah i dont trust myself to go out in that environment without a group of
> friends. Taking my side kick guide dog is not realistic because of the
> crowded and loud room and i would misplace a white cane so i would latch on
> to some friends and go out. I wasnt looked at as depending on them and being
> socially awkward. Living in a smaller college campus with all the other
> colleges being small too you see  alot of the same people and most of them
> have had a class with me which allowed for small talk or even them
> approaching me to begin with.
>
> If i were getting someones phone number either as a friend or an intimate
> interest i would either have them call me and leave a message  then i would
> hand them the phone and have them put it in there and tell me the speed dial
> number. Or just hand it to them and have them do that. I am not braille
> literate because i dont like braille and it doesnt like me. I wouldnt want
> to take an expensive device with me in case i sat it down and forgetfully
> leave it. Yes my pose may seem foolish to you all and maybe this undignifys
> me by making it seem like i depend on people who are sighted but i used to
> be one of them. I treat them like they treat me and i have more sighted
> friends than blind or visually impaired because where i live i am the only
> blind person. This is in my home town and at my small private college. Maybe
> i just have really good friends who packed me home on a night where i had
> too much and had to learn the hard way. who always returned my personal
> posessions and wouldnt pity me for being blind but rather expected for me to
> act no different.
>
>         -Teal
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "V Nork" <ginisd at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 10:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs
>
>
>> Hello list, As I read this great thread, I wonder, as a woman, what the
>> thinking is about going out to clubs and bars alone, with just a cane and
>> cell phone?  I have never tried this, but I would like to venture out
>> alone, maybe you could share your experiences and ideas?  Most of my
>> friends I do hang out with are not into clubs, so this would be a solo
>> outing for me. Thanks , Ginny
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Briley Pollard" <brileyp at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 7:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs
>>
>>
>>> Depending exclusively on a sighted guide is of course not wise. Having no
>>>
>>> other mobility aid available is  foolish. However, using sighted guide in
>>>
>>> addition to another mobility aid is useful at times such as in loud and
>>> crowded environments such as night clubs. I'm not saying hang on to your
>>> friends all night, (that is obviously awkward and defeats the purpose of
>>> going tout to have fun), but it still can be helpful. Even when I'm with
>>> blind friends, often someone might hold my arm while using their cane
>>> just to insure we stay together in crowded environments. My point is it
>>> shouldn't be disregarded as a viable tool in addition to others.
>>>
>>> BrileyOn Jan 3, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Jedi wrote:
>>>
>>>> And that's why one should avoid depending  on a sighted guide if at all
>>>> possible so that their decisions don't have to affect yours.
>>>>
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>> Jedi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> hmm no i wouldnt take my guide dog since music would be loud and there
>>>>> would
>>>>> just be too  much activity but i never really take a cane either. I
>>>>> think
>>>>> the first time i went to a bar since my vision loss or a  club yes i
>>>>> had my
>>>>> cell and my cane but after the first time i left it and went with
>>>>> friends
>>>>> sighted guide.
>>>>
>>>>> here is another question alittle off topic. What if you went sighted
>>>>> guide
>>>>> and your guide ended up drinking. do you drink too? what if you wanted
>>>>> to
>>>>> drink, would you do it in a nightblub or bar or even alittle further in
>>>>> public?
>>>>
>>>>>            -Teal
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Brice Smith" <brice.smith319 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 5:16 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> I know this is slightly off topic from the original question and
>>>>>> others might have different opinions on this, but a club or bar is the
>>>>>> last environment I'd feel comfortable losing any type of independence
>>>>>> whatsoever. What happens if you find yourself separated from your
>>>>>> friends? As a guy I never go out at night without my cane, cell phone,
>>>>>> and some extra cash ... and for good reason women usually worry over
>>>>>> this more than guys do. Buy an identification cane or one of the new
>>>>>> ambutech telescoping canes if you need something light -- anything to
>>>>>> keep yourself feeling and looking independent if something unexpected
>>>>>> happens.
>>>>
>>>>>> To add to the original question, ditch the notetaker or anything extra
>>>>>> that unnecessarily weighs you down. Except for my cane, I never carry
>>>>>> anything that can't fit into my pocket. Doing otherwise is asking for
>>>>>> trouble.
>>>>
>>>>>> Brice
>>>>>> On 1/1/10, Adrianne Dempsey <adrianne.dempsey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I think taking a note taker to the club is a bad idea.  I don't even
>>>>>>> bring
>>>>>>> my purse because it is just something to carry around.  You don't
>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>> set it down somewhere, and you would just look silly dancing with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>> fact I don't even bring my cane because I don't know what to do with
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the dance floor.  I usually go with a friend and just go sighted
>>>>>>> guide.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> hate loosing a bit of independence but what ells can you do.  If I go
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> other blind friends then I usually bring my cane but I always feel
>>>>>>> silly
>>>>>>> with it at the club.  As far as phone numbers...  I think having
>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>> ells program it in to your phone is fine if you can not do it
>>>>>>> yourself.
>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>> my phone is not very accessible and I can do it.  I just  hit o.k.
>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>> brings up a menu the first thing on the menu is add contact.  I hit
>>>>>>> O.K.
>>>>>>> again, and then you can type in the number then down arrow and type
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> name. Then hit o.k. again and their it is.  Another option is to have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> bizness card with your info, so you can give the new person your
>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>> This is probably not so necessary as pretty much every one has cell
>>>>>>> phones
>>>>>>> now but it is a thought.  The slate and stylist is a good idea to if
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> get a hold of one of those ninny slates.  But you have to be careful
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> this option, because you could get stabbed with the stylist if you
>>>>>>> move
>>>>>>> funny or if your pants are tight.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 4:24 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] phone numbers at night clubs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmmmmm. Interesting subject.  I would've taken the notetaker just
>>>>>>>> because I'm pretty touchy feely about my information.  The numbers
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> not programmable by a blind person in my cell phone, so a note taker
>>>>>>>> is a good option.
>>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/1/10, Kevin Wassmer <commanderlumpy2003 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello folks. It's been a long time sense I have bought up a
>>>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> here. First of all, I will say I am doing fine. I have a job at
>>>>>>>>> Verizon
>>>>>>>>> Wireless working at a call center. It is challenging. How it is
>>>>>>>>> rewarding. I
>>>>>>>>> am glad to finely get off of social security soon. Or as I call it
>>>>>>>>> socialist
>>>>>>>>> insecurity. But that's another story.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                I want to bring up a topic. I use to go to night
>>>>>>>>> clubs
>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>> in the day. I did not want to bring my Braille Note with me because
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> thought back then of bringing my note taker sounded strange. But I
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> always have a problem if I met someone and wanted to get their
>>>>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>> was because the music was so loud that it was hard to communicate.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> have people program numbers in to my cell phone at nosy places like
>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>>>> question to you all is this. Being blind, would you have taken your
>>>>>>>>> note
>>>>>>>>> taker to the night club? The more I think about it, the more I
>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> Slate and Styles would have been a great option for some like the
>>>>>>>>> night
>>>>>>>>> club
>>>>>>>>> sidereal. What would you have done?
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